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Defense looked decent against Saints in the Second Half, some good adjustments by PG. However we still haven’t faced a good armed QB yet to test our Secondary. 
 

Week 1 - Bridgewater - Weak Arm

Week 2 - Brees - Weak Arm

Week 3 - Newton - Strong Arm

Week 4 - Allen - Strong Arm

Week 5 - Mahomes - Strong Arm

Week 7 - Brady - Average Arm

Week 8 - Mayfield - Average Arm

Week 9 - Herbert - Strong Arm

Week 10 - Lock - Strong Arm

Week 11 - Mahomes - Strong Arm

Week 12 - Ryan - Strong Arm

Week 13 - Darnold - Strong Arm

Week 14 - Rivers - Dead Arm

Week 15 - Herbert - Strong Arm

Week 16 - Tua/Fitz - Average Arms

Week 17 - Lock - Strong Arm

 

That’s 10 Strong Arms, 3 Average Arms, 2 Weak Arms, and 1 Dead Arm. And we already faced both Weak Arms. 
 

Newton is going to be a real test for our secondary and it should be really interesting. 

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4 hours ago, BayRaider said:

Defense looked decent against Saints in the Second Half, some good adjustments by PG. However we still haven’t faced a good armed QB yet to test our Secondary. 
 

Week 1 - Bridgewater - Weak Arm

Week 2 - Brees - Weak Arm

Week 3 - Newton - Strong Arm

Week 4 - Allen - Strong Arm

Week 5 - Mahomes - Strong Arm

Week 7 - Brady - Average Arm

Week 8 - Mayfield - Average Arm

Week 9 - Herbert - Strong Arm

Week 10 - Lock - Strong Arm

Week 11 - Mahomes - Strong Arm

Week 12 - Ryan - Strong Arm

Week 13 - Darnold - Strong Arm

Week 14 - Rivers - Dead Arm

Week 15 - Herbert - Strong Arm

Week 16 - Tua/Fitz - Average Arms

Week 17 - Lock - Strong Arm

 

That’s 10 Strong Arms, 3 Average Arms, 2 Weak Arms, and 1 Dead Arm. And we already faced both Weak Arms. 
 

Newton is going to be a real test for our secondary and it should be really interesting. 

Rivers - dead arm 😂😂😂

 

But yeah, list looks spot on. 

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7 minutes ago, TLO said:

Guenther has to be on the hot seat at some point soon. 3 years in and essentially no improvement as an overall unit. 

Yeah our defense has honestly regressed despite us spending a ton in free agency and 4 1st/2nd round picks on the unit over the last two off-seasons. 

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1 minute ago, BayRaider said:

Well we did face 2 Top 4 RBs. No excuse against New Englands whack *** RBs though...

It doesn't get any easier for us though. We get the Bills who are averaging 100+ yards by committee, then the Chiefs with CEH, Buccaneers with Fournette/RoJo, Browns with Chubb/Hunt, Chargers with Ekeler, Broncos with Gordon/Lindsay, Chiefs again with CEH, Falcons with Gurley, and the Jets with Bell. 

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Just now, NYRaider said:

It doesn't get any easier for us though. We get the Bills who are averaging 100+ yards by committee, then the Chiefs with CEH, Buccaneers with Fournette/RoJo, Browns with Chubb/Hunt, Chargers with Ekeler, Broncos with Gordon/Lindsay, Chiefs again with CEH, Falcons with Gurley, and the Jets with Bell. 

Need Dylan Moses 1st Round and a do it all DT in the 2nd. Gonna be a long season. 

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4 hours ago, TLO said:

Guenther has to be on the hot seat at some point soon. 3 years in and essentially no improvement as an overall unit. 

not that I love Guenther, but the guy has had some horrid talent up until this year and has a bunch of 22 year olds running around with a regressed D-line. partly on him and largely on young, new to system guys..

 

gotta see by week 6/7

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2 hours ago, roi34 said:

not that I love Guenther, but the guy has had some horrid talent up until this year and has a bunch of 22 year olds running around with a regressed D-line. partly on him and largely on young, new to system guys..

gotta see by week 6/7

We've been terrible the last two years and look even worse this season. The biggest issue that I have with Gunther that I've had with him his entire time here is that he just really lacks creativity with how he attacks offenses. We were 31st in blitz % in 2018, 24th in blitz % in 2019, and 25th in blitz % through 2 games in 2020. In terms of pressures (a combination of sacks, hurries, and QB hits) we ranked 32nd in 2018, 30th in 2019, and 31st through 2 games in 2020. 

You can attribute some of that to lack of talent in the last two years but what's his excuse this year? We've spent 3 1sts, 1 2nd, and 2 4th round picks on defensive players the last two drafts and have invested $130M on free agents like Littleton, Joyner, Collins, Kwit, Nassib, and Collins. We're not even somewhat respectable through 3 games going against the Panthers with a rookie HC and a new QB, the Saints with a regressing Brees and without their best player, and the Patriots with a new QB and limited weapons on offense. 

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So far my thoughts on starters 

DE- Max- dude is the real deal. 2.5 sacks and opponents game planning against him. Didn’t have the best game against the Saints but they have one of the best OL in football 

UT- big hole. Hurst more of a backup. Collins a flop 

NT- Hankins not dominant, but solid. I would bring him back on 2-3 year deal unless we can sign a dominant DT. 
 

DE- Ferrell- has a decent game against Pats with pressure. Let’s see how he develops, solid against the run. Hit or miss pass rusher so far 

WLB- Morrow- backup player who starts 

MLB- Kwit- inc - been hurt 

SLB- Littleton- hasn’t came in and looked that good. To be fair, it’s a new system, and our defensive line sucks. Still has that range you want for a modern LB. 

CB- Mullen- dude been ballin this year 

CB- Arnette- been solid so far. Hasn’t looked horrible so he has that going for him 

Slot- Joyner- hasn’t been bbq like last year. Still overpaid 

FS- Big need 

SS- Abram- looked good first two games, but bad last game. Played hurt last game. 
 

need 3 starters badly, and our depth sucks. Once injuries pile up, it really shows. 

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