ronjon1990 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: I could kind of understand if Guenther was considered some defensive guru that had built elite defenses in the past, but neither of those are the case. He had some success in Cincinnati but you can also make a case that he inherited the best defense in the league when they took over and they took a significant step back from one year to the next with the same personnel and the only real change being Guenther at DC instead of Zimmer. But apparently Guenther's scheme is built around having defensive linemen that can't rush the passer and bigger safeties regardless if they can cover or not. At this point, Taylor Mays or George Illoka would be upgrades on Harris. Domata Peko still available? No excuses to not know Guenther's system at least. Edited September 30, 2020 by ronjon1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 In our last 9 games we've given up 357 ypg and 28.7 ppg and have only recorded 10 sacks and forced 5 turnovers. Guenther has got to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: In our last 9 games we've given up 357 ypg and 28.7 ppg and have only recorded 10 sacks and forced 5 turnovers. Guenther has got to go. Guess you were right.... when you kept pumping Gruden’s quote “we’ll go as far as Collins takes us”,... too bad it ain’t very far. seriously though were not THAT good on offense we can win inspite of the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 10:50 PM, NYRaider said: I guess. But Littleton played ILB with the Rams and we're playing him at OLB even with Kwit out. ... Cory Littleton - Very good ILB with the Rams so we only play him at SLB. But hey, at least we're able to operate his scheme... On 9/28/2020 at 9:42 PM, NYRaider said: The alternate is Cory Littleton, the guy we just gave one of the biggest LB contracts in NFL history too. We only play with 3 LB's like 15-20% of the time. So we only play with 3 Lb’s 15-20% of the time so how is it that we are playing Littleton ‘only at SLB’ ? The Rams base scheme was a 3-4, but equally they were in nickel a significant amount of time, so Littleton’s role would be the same in nickel as it is now, wouldn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 We have 4 sacks and 2 takeaways through the first 4 games of the season, yikes. We're on pace to give up 30 ppg which would be the most we've ever given up in a single season. In the 40 seasons before Guenther got here we had given up 25+ ppg only 5 times. While we've given up 25+ ppg in each of his three years here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 We're on pace to allow... Yards - 6,256 (most in franchise history) Points - 480 (most in franchise history) Takeaways - 8 (least in franchise history) Sacks - 16 (2nd least in franchise history) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 yikes! bring in new coordinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Also on pace to be only the 2nd team since 2010 to finish with less than 20 sacks along with our 2018 defense and only the 2nd defense in history to finish with less than 10 turnovers, lololol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragingraider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 PG has got to go. Promote Marinelli and bring back Buckner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I am just going to say "LIKE" right here for the posts on this page because I do not have enough to everybody one. Bye bye PG. If we get wrecked by the Chiefs I think he is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 As our defensive coordinator. Ken Norton Jr (42 games): 369 ypg, 24.5 ppg, 67 sacks (1.59 pg), 61 takeaways (1.45 pg) | 23-19 record (.547) Paul Guenther (36 games): 370 ypg, 27.9 ppg, 49 sacks (1.36 pg), 34 takeaways (0.94 pg) | 13-23 record (.361) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: As our defensive coordinator. Ken Norton Jr (42 games): 369 ypg, 24.5 ppg, 67 sacks (1.59 pg), 61 takeaways (1.45 pg) | 23-19 record (.547) Paul Guenther (36 games): 370 ypg, 27.9 ppg, 49 sacks (1.36 pg), 34 takeaways (0.94 pg) | 13-23 record (.361) Can you pull up John Pagano? I thought he did a decent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 With Guenther we've allowed 30+ 16 times (42%) and held our opponents to 20 or less 8 times (22%) in 36 games. With KNJ we allowed 30+ 13 times (30%) and held our opponents to 20 or less 15 times (35%) in 42 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Can you pull up John Pagano? I thought he did a decent job. In 6 games with Pagano we gave up 320 yards, 21 ppg and had 8 TO (1.3 pg) + 17 sacks (2.8 pg). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 So on average with Guenther including projections for 2020 you're allowing: 5,925 yards, 448 points, 22 sacks, 15 takeaways. And over the last 5 years those numbers would rank (by year) 2019 - yards (23rd), points (28th), sacks (32nd), turnovers (31st) 2018 - yards (23rd), points (29th), sacks (31st), turnovers (30th) 2017 - yards (30th), points (32nd), sacks (32nd) , turnovers (29th) 2016 - yards (24th), points (29th), sacks (32nd), turnovers (27th) 2015 - yards (23rd), points (30th), sacks (32nd), turnovers (29th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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