NCOUGHMAN Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 2:14 PM, Jraider91 said: Lack of turnovers by far the biggest issues, 2nd worst in the league. There are players with as many turnovers. It is all things considered slightly below average I think, big improvement over the past but still a long way off what we need. Slightly below average defense? After just beating the colts lol. the last 3 games our defense is tied for 8th in points allowed /game defense is balling imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Slightly below average defense? After just beating the colts lol. the last 3 games our defense is tied for 8th in points allowed /game defense is balling imo They are balling. Cherry on top would be some turnovers because they can't seem to force any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: They are balling. Cherry on top would be some turnovers because they can't seem to force any. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Slightly below average defense? After just beating the colts lol. the last 3 games our defense is tied for 8th in points allowed /game defense is balling imo Our defense on the season ranks 24th in ppg (25.4) and 13th in ypg (331) but the numbers are skewed because we just got absolutely hammered in both of the Chiefs games. Outside of those two matchups I think that our defense has been pretty damn good for the most part this season. We've only give up 30+ in 4 games (Chiefs x2, Bengals, Cowboys) while we allowed 30 ppg on the season last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) On 1/8/2022 at 6:40 PM, NCOUGHMAN said: Slightly below average defense? After just beating the colts lol. the last 3 games our defense is tied for 8th in points allowed /game defense is balling imo 3 games doesn't = season. One of the worst takeaway Ds in league, one of the worst redzone Ds. Turnovers are not a cherry on top they are an essential part of a good D. Edited January 9, 2022 by Jraider91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jraider91 said: 3 games doesn't = season. One of the worst takeaway Ds in league, one of the worst redzone Ds. Turnovers are not a cherry on top they are an essential part of a good D. Wonder which game this year you think the defense played the poorest in its crazy we’re 13th in yards allowed but 24th in points allowed per game and 2nd fewest yards allowed per point. Edited January 9, 2022 by NCOUGHMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Wonder which game this year you think the defense played the poorest in its crazy we’re 13th in yards allowed but 24th in points allowed per game and 2nd fewest yards allowed per point. Think games like the Ravens was bad with all their injuries, Dolphins was absolutely awful. Made a back up QB look like Mahomes. Chargers was pretty bad, Herbert did what he wanted all game. Chiefs both game was absolutely destruction. They've played really well last 3 weeks albeit against Nick Mullen, Drew Lock and Carson Wince. We have by far the worst red zone D in the league, 80%, so teams don't need that many yards to score on us. We are nearly 10% worse than the next team. Edited January 9, 2022 by Jraider91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, Jraider91 said: Think games like the Ravens was bad with all their injuries, Dolphins was absolutely awful. Made a back up QB look like Mahomes. Chargers was pretty bad, Herbert did what he wanted all game. Chiefs both game was absolutely destruction. They've played really well last 3 weeks albeit against Nick Mullen, Drew Lock and Carson Wince. We have by far the worst red zone D in the league, 80%, so teams don't need that many yards to score on us. We are nearly 10% worse than the next team. Or the defense constantly defends short fields and guess why they defend short fields. 13th in yards allowed should have been a red flag but continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 3:05 PM, MrOaktown_56 said: They are balling. Cherry on top would be some turnovers because they can't seem to force any. Calling it now. The Raiders get a pick 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Or the defense constantly defends short fields and guess why they defend short fields. 13th in yards allowed should have been a red flag but continue We are 9th worst in turnovers which isn't great but is not like you are suggesting. Titans and Chiefs worse for e.g. They are 13th in yards because teams don't go up and down field on them but when they get into redzone it is virtually an automatic score. 80% of opponents redzone visits are TDs, do you have any idea how bad that is? Saints is less than 50%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, Jraider91 said: We are 9th worst in turnovers which isn't great but is not like you are suggesting. Titans and Chiefs worse for e.g. They are 13th in yards because teams don't go up and down field on them but when they get into redzone it is virtually an automatic score. 80% of opponents redzone visits are TDs, do you have any idea how bad that is? Saints is less than 50%. It's really really really bad. Might even be historically bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: It's really really really bad. Might even be historically bad. When you are 10% worse than the next team, there is every chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Jraider91 said: We are 9th worst in turnovers which isn't great but is not like you are suggesting. Titans and Chiefs worse for e.g. They are 13th in yards because teams don't go up and down field on them but when they get into redzone it is virtually an automatic score. 80% of opponents redzone visits are TDs, do you have any idea how bad that is? Saints is less than 50%. Easier to score when you don’t have to gain many yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Easier to score when you don’t have to gain many yards He has a point though. Situationally, Bradley's RZ defense has just not been good this year. Obviously the defense has been very hot down the stretch, but it's one of the most important categories along with turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Easier to score when you don’t have to gain many yards Once you get into redzone the playbooks change dramatically, why are the 8 other teams above us in turnovers not so abysmally bad in the redzone then? Dunno why you are so invested in a D that gives up points whenever they play a decent offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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