Go_Giants Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said: That swept the bums we had at QB by a total of ~5 points over 2 games? Yes. And I’m not saying it, Football Outsiders (i.e. advanced metrics) is. You or/and your advanced metrics believe Daniel Jones sucks, yet WFT has never beaten him. The Giants suck yet without Saquon they swept a team with an elite defense, that ranked 3rd in defensive DVOA. What advanced metric explains how that is possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Go_Giants said: What advanced metric explains how that is possible? As bad as Daniel Jones is, he didn’t have the lowest or 2nd lowest QBR in the league last year. That honor went to Dwayne Haskins and Alex Smith, respectively. There’s only so much an elite defense can do with QBs who are performing at the league’s lowest level (some free alliteration to start off your weekend). Fitzpatrick had the 5th highest QBR, and Jones was in the bottom half, for those keeping score at home. Passer rating was a similar story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustrianEagle Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Shockwave said: I'm [] this close to admitting DJ sucks. But I need to see what he does this year with these weapons. If he excels..look out division. If he sucks... then use the draft capital to draft or sign a competent QB. Maybe it's via the draft. maybe it's Watson, Allen, or Jackson (who knows how things will turn out). Either way I wouldn't switch current positions with Philly. You guys are in for years upon years of mediocrity. Enjoy finishing 4th this year and next... and next... and... please explain to me how another year of jones + 2 first round picks are a better situation than the first year real year as a starter for hurts plus 3 first round picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folesadelphia Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) On 5/8/2021 at 3:04 AM, AustrianEagle said: please explain to me how another year of jones + 2 first round picks are a better situation than the first year real year as a starter for hurts plus 3 first round picks? I mean its really just seems likes he's projecting because the Giants have been so bad to mediocre for the past decade. The Eagles have every option available to them next year in regards to who they start at QB. What happens if D. Jones plays pretty well next year? Giants gonna pay him? Edited May 9, 2021 by Folesadelphia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 11 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said: As bad as Daniel Jones is, he didn’t have the lowest or 2nd lowest QBR in the league last year. That honor went to Dwayne Haskins and Alex Smith, respectively. There’s only so much an elite defense can do with QBs who are performing at the league’s lowest level (some free alliteration to start off your weekend). Fitzpatrick had the 5th highest QBR, and Jones was in the bottom half, for those keeping score at home. Passer rating was a similar story. Can we stop referencing QBR like it has any merit? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Danger said: Can we stop referencing QBR like it has any merit? I personally never put much stock into it either, but it definitely reflects how bad our QBs were last year. I know @Gmen is a big believer in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 9 hours ago, AustrianEagle said: please explain to me how another year of jones + 2 first round picks are a better situation than the first year real year as a starter for hurts plus 3 first round picks? Isn't the Colts 1st round pick conditional on Wentz? Considering how many games Wentz has missed in his career I wouldn't be throwing around that pick just yet... Anyway that post was mostly sarcasm.. you know like what 90% of this thread is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I’m guessing this means we play the Giants, schedules come out this week so they already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EaglesPeteC Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Matts everytime he is about to log on to the Eagles' forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 11:14 AM, Danger said: Can we stop referencing QBR like it has any merit? Shockingly it has the highest correlation to wins currently. But I think its because ESPN adjust the grade/formula to fit their needs. 18 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: Matts everytime he is about to log on to the Eagles' forum Its been 3 months. Clearly I have a lot of pent up "Wentz sucks Dak is awesome" post I need to get out of my system. Its going to be a long summer for you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 @Matts4313 being here means I actually have to moderate things again... *sigh* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Danger said: @Matts4313 being here means I actually have to moderate things again... *sigh* If it takes his comeback to do that, then the Philly faithful have fallen to new lows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Danger said: @Matts4313 being here means I actually have to moderate things again... *sigh* You know you missed me. During my ban I checked in time to time. This thread died without me pushing yalls buttons. And yes, I said yalls. I am Texan. Edited May 17, 2021 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You know you missed me. During my ban I checked in time to time. This thread died without me pushing yalls buttons. And yes, I said yalls. I am Texan. you were banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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