Matts4313 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: I can confirm we read nothing you write How did you know to say that? Boom, roasted. 18 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: You say this with literally no data to back it up. Hurts and Siranni are complete unknowns. Unknown does not equal worst. True. Unproven does not mean worst. But it is fair to say they have the most to prove, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Does it matter? Are there any examples in modern NFL history where a division rival has traded back to let their rival get a potential franchise QB in the high first round? I doubt it. The Cowboys FO seemed to be obsessed with the DBs. Once they were gone I do think we would have moved back for the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Whole lotta baseless speculating about a month or so out. This is all like May talk when nothing is happening. We'll know soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: How did you know to say that? Boom, roasted. True. Unproven does not mean worst. But it is fair to say they have the most to prove, right? Completely fair. But just to call them outright “the worst” is just lazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The verbiage is just a way to say if this was a pick up basketball game, Nick and Hurts would be the last HC/QB selected. They are the fat kid in dodgeball; which "last" becomes interchangeable as "worst" in regular lexicon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Lmao this is getting really really stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeT14 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said: Not for a QB though. Hindsight. They didn't know that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, MikeT14 said: Hindsight. They didn't know that before. Teams generally ask you who you’re trading up for before they make the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Classic FF comment PFF doesn’t like who I like “PFF is trash” PFF supports my narrative “My source for my argument is PFF” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Classic FF comment PFF doesn’t like who I like “PFF is trash” PFF supports my narrative “My source for my argument is PFF” Name any legitimate ranking source, and I will show you the Eagles at or near the bottom. Bottom 6 team in Super Bowl odds as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Name any legitimate ranking source, and I will show you the Eagles at or near the bottom. Bottom 6 team in Super Bowl odds as well. Yes because of the unknown of many major pieces- which is fair when you are looking to rank people based off information you have right at this moment. But in truth, there is a massive range of outcomes given all of the unknowns. That is the point. But to be there pounding your chest that you definitively have a better QB because you have a 100 year old journeyman that can’t keep a job for a whole season is a weird flex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Name any legitimate ranking source, and I will show you the Eagles at or near the bottom. Bottom 6 team in Super Bowl odds as well. What you should look into is pff pre season roster rankings, and whatever other outlets rankings, and see how they held up for past upcoming seasons. Not saying they're inaccurate. Just saying that'd provide more merit to these rankings and using them in an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 As I have said pretty much all offseason, no earthly idea what we are getting with this team. They could be picking #1 overall or they could win this division. Neither would surprise me more than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Dallas Goedert, Lane Johnson, Jason Kelce, Brandon Brooks, Fletcher Cox, B Graham, Slay, Anthony Harris. That's 8 potential pro bowlers out of 22 possible starters. Steve Nelson, Mailata, and Miles Sanders are solid/potentially above average starters. DeVonta assumedly should be a solid starter. Sweat could be a solid/potentially above average starter. Barnett is solid. Isaac is an ok LG when the LT next to him plays well. Singleton gives us one decent LB. That 15 our of 22 starters that are at least Ok/Solid or better, along with our 3rd pass rusher. Maddox stinks. #2 and #3 LB stinks. SS probably stinks. WR outside of DeVonta probably stinks, but maybe Quez and Reagor are ok/solid. QB, we'll see, but Hurts is probably below average or just ok at best. I think we're arguably the most talented team in the division as far as potential pro bowlers, but the media isn't expecting our OL to stay healthy or Hurts to look at least average (hey, neither am I). Most people will also discount DeVonta until he proves 167 lbs isn't a problem in the NFL. Ultimately, the OL's health will likely determine if we finish 4th or 1st in this skidmark division of sub .500 teams. If it's musical chairs at OL, Hurts is going to look terrible and so will the Eagles as a whole. If Lane Johnson/Brandon Brooks/Jason Kelce/Mailata play 15 games, the Eagles will win the NFCE, and Hurts will look at least average (25ish total td's/3700ish total yards/less than 15 total turnovers). That's an unlikely IF (you have to assume at least 1 of them, probably Lane or Brooks, is going to miss some games), but stranger things have happened. Regardless of how bad or good we are, no team is "screwed for the next decade". Teams can get screwed for maybe 3 years if they make multiple bad contract decisions, but pretty much any team can reverse their fortunes with 2 good drafts, 1 or 2 pro bowlers via free agency, and another 2 or 3 solid starters via FA. We're going to have some decent turnover along the OL as we move on from Lane/Brooks/Kelce, but that doesn't mean we won't adequately replace them. Edited August 15, 2021 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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