Danger Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Anyone who thinks Dak wins the eye test has Blue shaded cataracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, RBreezy said: Dude are you dating Dak Prescott? Moved on from the big girls of Texas? I’ve never seen someone so obsessed with one player and proving others wrong* *Besides that one bananas dude who always propped up Keith Rivers I know my target audience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Danger said: Anyone who thinks Dak wins the eye test has Blue shaded cataracts. Its not hard to beat someone on crutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: The entirety of the NFL. All of them. Thats the comparison. I mean names, stats. What are the qualifiers? where is the list. Need more of a picture before it means anything really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kiltman said: I mean names, stats. What are the qualifiers? where is the list. Need more of a picture before it means anything really. I gotchu https://www.nfl.com/teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I gotchu https://www.nfl.com/teams So the names don't do anything to help Dak I take it? Is Mariota higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kiltman said: So the names don't do anything to help Dak I take it? Is Mariota higher? I just provided the list. It is literally every other team in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Gmen said: For sure He’ll have his ups and downs as he learns the game and gains experience. But the biggest knock on him as a prospect was that his arm was just “okay”. And that doesn’t appear to be the case at all based on preseason and everything we’ve been hearing out of OTAs and training camp. It doesn’t take regular season games to see throwing mechanics, accuracy, and arm strength. The stats may not matter, but you can’t ignore the talent. I heard Stidham was having a good preseason so I watched his highlights side by side with Jones. Similar stats, but you can see a clear difference in arm talent. You can see which one was a top 10 pick. You gotta judge a guy’s arm when things aren’t ideal. Any QB in the NFL can deliver most every ball in shorts, a clean drop and a place to step up and deliver. It’s rarely ideal in a game. True arm strength is noticeable, even to novice fans, when the QB has to improvise. It’s the reason footwork is so important. But to be able to rocket a ball on a 20 yard out while a speedy end is closing in and disrupting a standard five step drop is where you’ll see it. Guys like Rodgers and Mahomes, whose arms are all-world, can get balls wherever they want at mostly any time is the apex comparison. Now, you don’t have to be that great to be very successful in the NFL but just cause you can sling it 70 yards in the air means what? You can throw a great Hail Mary? Super. Nick Foles can throw the ball deep. But it’s a complete rainbow. He’s actually made an art out of being able to drop it in a bucket but it’s highly susceptible to a turnover. There’s quite a few starters that get replaced for those few hail Mary’s a year by the backup QB. But the guy that can consistently throw a rope in less than ideal times 30 yards in a window is the guy you want on the field. I don’t think you get to see a guy’s true “arm talent” until game time. I haven’t watched much of any of Daniels. From what I hear he looks justifiably that 1st round pick. But training camp and preseason and the like is usually a very less than optimal way to judge exactly what you’re getting in the way of a quality QB. TLDR; I’ll judge his arm in the regular season. Where variables can’t be pre determined and he’s got top level talent to help and also go against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Gmen said: For sure He’ll have his ups and downs as he learns the game and gains experience. But the biggest knock on him as a prospect was that his arm was just “okay”. That wasn't the biggest knock though. It was his poor decision-making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Cowboys new contract! Jaylon Smith 5 years 64M. 😤 But also 😊 because the Jones’ gonna run out of money sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Jroc04 said: Cowboys new contract! Jaylon Smith 5 years 64M. 😤 But also 😊 because the Jones’ gonna run out of money sooner than later. good for Smith, good player. But yeah, signing the least important position first is a pretty Jones family move. "Sorry fellas, just not enough to give you that deal no more." Wonder if Zeke will take his comments about Smith as a shot. 'he's loyal, he always shows up, never misses...' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Kiltman said: Wonder if Zeke will take his comments about Smith as a shot. 'he's loyal, he always shows up, never misses. Zeke who? Just keeps getting better and better!! 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Kiltman said: good for Smith, good player. But yeah, signing the least important position first is a pretty Jones family move. "Sorry fellas, just not enough to give you that deal no more." Wonder if Zeke will take his comments about Smith as a shot. 'he's loyal, he always shows up, never misses...' He was quoted as saying, “there’s definitely less pie to go around now”. Which is obvious but also a little message to the big 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Dak has had the 8th fewest opportunities tho... so you are wrong And arm talent. And eye test. And tape test. And stats. Dak wins in all of those. 15 hours ago, Kiltman said: Compared to who? A note: I think this is a dumb stat for how good a QB is. I understand it’s used as a metric to quantify the “clutch” “he’s just a winner” stuff people have spewed for ages. But it’s so situational. I mean Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton are in the top ten active and they have been largely middle tier QBs like Dak their whole career. 15 hours ago, Matts4313 said: I gotchu https://www.nfl.com/teams C'mon @Matts4313 I don't mind debating but if a dude questions your "8th fewest number" and the link you provide to back it up is nfl.com, that's kind of bush league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 12:53 PM, Matts4313 said: Here ya go: And as an added Bonus: Highest passer rating since 1994 when tied in the 4th/OT (minimum 50 pass attempts): 14 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said: C'mon @Matts4313 I don't mind debating but if a dude questions your "8th fewest number" and the link you provide to back it up is nfl.com, that's kind of bush league. Fine there ya go @Kiltman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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