Kiltman Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: I agree. And I disagree with Cowhed when he kept saying "you dont want to pay Dak". I only pointed it out because if you listen to it, he goes on and on about how Dak is "an ascending QB that his teams trust. He has leadership, coachability, health and he wins games. Those are the things that matter in a QB" <== He says that paraphrased like 3-4 times in the video. PS: Dak Sucks tho (for Pete) big swing for Colin, he was pretty down on Dak until this. It's funny though cause he's said something like. "Dak is good...he's just not great...he'll keep you in games but doesn't have the talent to will the team to win on his own really" like within the last 5 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: @Art_Vandalay PS => Dak Sucks Saved you some time Pete In the NFC East thread this morning, I literally said I'd take Dak over Cam. Check it out, brah. Colin still consistently maintains Dak isn't top 10 btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Kiltman said: big swing for Colin, he was pretty down on Dak until this. It's funny though cause he's said something like. "Dak is good...he's just not great...he'll keep you in games but doesn't have the talent to will the team to win on his own really" like within the last 5 months. He also was huge into Dak 2016-2017. He is a radio personality and stirs drama. But if Art is going to keep posting his videos, I am going to use Colin to discredit himself. This was all just to rub in Arts face tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Art_Vandalay said: In the NFC East thread this morning, I literally said I'd take Dak over Cam. Check it out, brah. Colin still consistently maintains Dak isn't top 10 btw. By next week, Colin wont be saying that. But the point wasnt him bashing Cam. Listen to what he says about Dak. He said very similar stuff a few days ago - about how Dak is becoming one of the better QBs in the league. But Colin is the hot take, knee jerk specialist. Edited September 13, 2019 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 10:21 AM, EaglesPeteC said: Dak sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: He also was huge into Dak 2016-2017. He is a radio personality and stirs drama. But if Art is going to keep posting his videos, I am going to use Colin to discredit himself. This was all just to rub in Arts face tbh. Oh yeah he goes back and forth all the time. He's a great takesmen He was one of the leaders at FS1 that realized saying anything about Philly would drive the numbers. He'll put out a take at something philly at least once a quarter ha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Child please. I go to NYC about 2-3 times a year. Vegas 1-2xs a year. I have been to state between Florida to California and all the way up to Chicago. Most of the major cities I hit on a bi-annual basis. You guys are missing Arts case about "NFL players and Execs opinions matter most" last night. Yet, you think Austin is top 5? lol You value execs opinions too much. We watch the all these guys draft Johnny Manziel (who Jerruh coveted) and supply them with some unearned credit because they have a job. Tell me the difference between Mike Mayock and like 10 people on this site who dedicate themselves to watching football all the time. The NFL is a business not a passion. You have to realize that some super successful businessman (Snyder) just has play money and no football acumen. Doesn’t make the geniuses. Charlie Casserly was a NFL GM freely giving out his opinion and he’s a jackass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Jroc04 said: Yet, you think Austin is top 5? lol Have you been here? 1 minute ago, Jroc04 said: You value execs opinions too much. We watch the all these guys draft Johnny Manziel (who Jerruh coveted) and supply them with some unearned credit because they have a job. Tell me the difference between Mike Mayock and like 10 people on this site who dedicate themselves to watching football all the time. The NFL is a business not a passion. You have to realize that some super successful businessman (Snyder) just has play money and no football acumen. Doesn’t make the geniuses. Charlie Casserly was a NFL GM freely giving out his opinion and he’s a jackass. You said "You" but you meant @Art_Vandalay, correct? Because my entire argument was he was putting to much emphasis into what the execs said this offseason. So you are 100% in agreement with me in this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Have you been here? Austin is probably the only city in texas I could see visiting. I hate vacationing though and only go where I'm brought along to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Matts4313 said: Listen to what he says about Dak. He said very similar stuff a few days ago - about how Dak is becoming one of the better QBs in the league. He's been saying that about Dak for a while now. A lot of people don't like Colin but I think his opinions are usually on point. A few days ago he was talking about all the different ways people can get paid. Kirk - Throws for a bunch of yards Flacco/Eli - Super Bowl run(s) Dak - Winner He's always said despite Dak being physically limited and not giving you any "wow" plays, he aces the following things: - Mature enough to handle the spotlight of being a Dallas QB (He's a grown-up) - Not controversial (Backed Jerruh on the anthem stuff) - Doesn't make a lot of mistakes - Coachable - Great W/L record So while he'll likely never be a great QB due to limitations, the above things make him deserving of getting paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Lets pick teams here: Matts Jroc agrees that exec thing is overblown Kilty agrees that Colin is a hottake artist Danger agrees that Dak is a $30m/yr QB VS @Art_Vandalay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You said "You" but you meant @Art_Vandalay, correct? Because my entire argument was he was putting to much emphasis into what the execs said this offseason. So you are 100% in agreement with me in this post. Whoa now. Don't get it twisted. You posted an article that said Dak is top 10 and referred to that as the "majority of people" thinking Dak is top 10. I referenced All NFL players and executives (GM's) who don't think he's remotely close to top 10. That's all. All NFL players + GM's > your nfl.com article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Dak sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Art_Vandalay said: Whoa now. Don't get it twisted. You posted an article that said Dak is top 10 and referred to that as the "majority of people" thinking Dak is top 10. I referenced All NFL players and executives (GM's) who don't think he's remotely close to top 10. That's all. All NFL players + GM's > your nfl.com article What I said was NFL.com, FO.com and PFF all have him as a top 10 QB. And I said it because you said "There is not one analyst out there that has Dak in the top 10". All I was doing was proving you wrong by giving sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBreezy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Philly > Austin Carson > Dak Eagles > Cowboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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