quiller Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Personally I still think were a little early to make the call. Let’s see what next year brings 1st half or 2nd half Dak Right now I would go 23-25 range But if I see continued improvement and the cost of s starter goes up and up then 30 might not be out if range. Either way I don’t se a better QB available next year so ... and I know no one believes it but Dak even though I put him at 12 or so best QB in NFL at this moment as the games yesterday showed that would have been good enough to get to the super bowl if our D had not failed us against the Rams As Goff really only played well yesterday for about one half of football oddly the best QB IMO on the field yesterday from start to finish was Mahomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5x10 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) If you’re happy with 200-225 yards ,1 td per game then he’s your guy Edited January 21, 2019 by 5x10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsGuy82 said: Dak has proven he could win big games, lead a offense and make big plays. What do you expect? The Jared Goff's and Pat Mahomes don't grow on trees What big games? 2 out of his 3 were HFA and 2 out of the 3 they were favorites. His current record is 1-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuy82 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, 5x10 said: If you’re happy with 200-225 yards ,1 td per game then he’s your guy Well thank god Dallas loads him up with a top 3 RB and quality OL and Amari Cooper than. Dallas put him in a situation to sustain long term success. He's gonna consistently keep Dallas in contention, win football games and carve out a good career. I dont think anyone will claim him to be a all time great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Dak has one more year. I'm willing to withhold judgement until I see him in a new offense. He has a chance to prove to me he can be a poor mans Wilson or Newton with a lesser arm. But right now he is more like a Tyrod Taylor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I voted against in this poll. I want to see more consistency. We shall see in 2019 what he can produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 5x10 said: If you’re happy with 200-225 yards ,1 td per game then he’s your guy If that is the trade off for Dallas winning 2 of 3 games and 2 NFCE crowns in 3 seasons....then yeah, I'll take that all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 5x10 said: If you’re happy with 200-225 yards ,1 td per game then he’s your guy Or to be more fair to the last ten games of the season. 220-250 yrd game 1 TO every 2-3 games 1 rushing TD every other game. Winning TOP by 6-8 min a game. Sign me up Again I want to hold my thoughts until near the end of next season. If we see performance more like we did the last ten games of this year including the playoffs then Yep I am fine for paying him equal to the avg to above avg starting QB in football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5x10 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: If that is the trade off for Dallas winning 2 of 3 games and 2 NFCE crowns in 3 seasons....then yeah, I'll take that all day. I’m talking about statistical expectations of daks play not of the entire team looks like we got some buyers @ 220 and 1td Edited January 21, 2019 by 5x10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 hours ago, cowboyfanin2890 said: If he was a franchise QB he would not consistently miss wide open receivers and we would not be a ball control offense that doesn't control the ball in big games. If he was a franchise QB right now he would elevate WR's instead of WR's needing to elevate him. A franchise QB has pocket awareness, hits the short passes to keep the D off the field and makes the tight throws at times. He makes the tight throws at times but he does not have any pocket awareness nor does he make the short throw(consistently) to keep the D off the field. I would vote yes to 20 million an year but a resounding no to anything over 25 million per year, and with my numbers I am hoping he gets better because if Elliot or Cooper go down Dak is a dead weight. And this is EXACTLY why he’s not a franchise QB. If you can’t perform the expected fundamentals of the position, then you have no business being a starting QB in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: THIS ^ is it in a nutshell for me. I don't believe Dak has done enough to earn a 30 mill etc... but even if he does, the Cap is getting so high, will it even matter as much? Take an economics course and learn about inflation. Yes, it matters. The salary amounts will increase by the same factor which the cap rises year over year. Meaning, the impact remains the same, and can still cripple a team when a player is paid too much relative to the total cap number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, 5x10 said: If you’re happy with 200-225 yards ,1 td per game then he’s your guy While consistently missing wide open receivers, holding the ball too long, taking unnecessary sacks, and lacking the arm talent to throw his receivers open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsGuy82 said: Well thank god Dallas loads him up with a top 3 RB and quality OL and Amari Cooper than. Dallas put him in a situation to sustain long term success. He's gonna consistently keep Dallas in contention, win football games and carve out a good career. I dont think anyone will claim him to be a all time great And most of those elements you mentioned go away very shortly after he gets overpaid because the cap will prevent the team from retaining them. Thus, making him a pedestrian player, and giving the team a losing record bwcause he isn’t talented enough to win without stars all around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, plan9misfit said: While consistently missing wide open receivers, holding the ball too long, taking unnecessary sacks, and lacking the arm talent to throw his receivers open. *sigh* This is going to be a fun off-season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadaluvsdallas Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, D82 said: *sigh* This is going to be a fun off-season... I'm gonna be busy packing up to move houses this off-season. Never thought I would be glad to say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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