Calvert28 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 2:02 PM, WizardHawk said: True. It's pretty crazy what he has signed for previously. I don't know who said it in previous posts but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some animosity towards Brady among the other players. I mean to each their own, but Brady could have set the standards for pay much higher. Contract History Team Contract Type Status Year Signed Yrs Total APY Guarantees Amount Earned % Earned Effective APY Patriots Drafted Renegotiated 2000 3 $864,500 $288,167 $38,500 $559,500 64.7% $279,750 Patriots Extension Renegotiated 2002 4 $30,125,000 $7,531,250 $9,500,000 $18,500,000 61.4% $6,166,667 Patriots Extension Renegotiated 2005 4 $48,000,000 $12,000,000 $26,500,000 $54,000,000 112.5% $10,800,000 Patriots Extension Renegotiated 2010 4 $72,000,000 $18,000,000 $18,300,000 $48,500,000 67.4% $16,166,667 Patriots Other Renegotiated 2013 5 $57,000,000 $11,400,000 $33,000,000 $41,000,000 71.9% $13,666,667 Patriots Extension Active 2016 2 $41,000,000 $20,500,000 $28,000,000 $44,764,706 109.2% $14,921,569 $11m/yr avg with 2013 contract. Unbelievable. Pats hit the lottery in more ways than one with Brady. But, as Dak said, not everyone has a spouse worth nearly $400m either. Yea but I think Brady was taking discounts before he even met Giselle. In fact he signed 2 contracts I thought that were lower then what should be for a franchise QB in like 2002 and 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I picked no, but don't agree he sucks, he is just David Garrard to me, just good enough to win and keep the train rolling but not good enough to win the game by himself 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: I picked no, but don't agree he sucks, he is just David Garrard to me, just good enough to win and keep the train rolling but not good enough to win the game by himself Except, y'know...he has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, D82 said: Except, y'know...he has. In the same way that Vick wasn't a pocket passer, but he "has thrown from the pocket before." Dak has mostly been a bus driver during his short 3 year career, but that doesn't mean he has never had a good game. The best game of his career was week 17 last season, and he definitely won the game. But that game is far from the normal Dak performance. Good example is him nearly losing the game for us the very next week with an interception to KJ Wright. We can go through his 3 years worth of game logs one by one and count how many games he carried the team on one hand. Edited February 27, 2019 by DaBoys 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 hours ago, DaBoys said: In the same way that Vick wasn't a pocket passer, but he "has thrown from the pocket before." Dak has mostly been a bus driver during his short 3 year career, but that doesn't mean he has never had a good game. The best game of his career was week 17 last season, and he definitely won the game. But that game is far from the normal Dak performance. Good example is him nearly losing the game for us the very next week with an interception to KJ Wright. We can go through his 3 years worth of game logs one by one and count how many games he carried the team on one hand. THIS is such an easy comeback. So here goes. How many games has Dak been asked to carry the team?? None by my count as Dak has been one of if not the least pass attempt starting QBs in the league. Remember they do run Zeke a lot. Just not inside the 5 much... (go figure) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: THIS is such an easy comeback. So here goes. How many games has Dak been asked to carry the team?? None by my count as Dak has been one of if not the least pass attempt starting QBs in the league. Remember they do run Zeke a lot. Just not inside the 5 much... (go figure) Dak was asked to carry the team against the Broncos in 2017. Zeke only got 8 carries. We lost bad. In fact Zeke never reached 20 carries the first 3 weeks of 2018, and we started 1-2. We have not been good when trying to run our offense through Dak. Which may be why SL got fired. He is a QB/WR guru who stubbornly tried to focus our offense around a pocket QB that didn't exist. Especially in the redzone. I do agree for the most part that they haven't asked him to win the game if they can help it. A few games come to mind, where I believe Dak did put the team on his back. Week 17 of last season. OT against the Eagles last season. And the 2017 game against the Cardinals. His rookie year was the best example of us not asking much from him(bottom 8 in pass attempts, dumbed down playbook), and there aren't very many examples of him carrying the team. You might argue the Pittsburgh game, but Zeke was the real hero and literally carried us to victory. Maybe you could argue the playoff game against GB, but we didn't win. I know the defense let us down in the end but maybe they wouldn't have had to if Dak didn't throw the screen pass to Micah Hyde in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 LOL Dak's contract just went WAY up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: LOL Dak's contract just went WAY up. That wouldn't be a bad contract for Dak. Tops out at 22 per year, but I'm sure not fully guaranteed. With an out after 3 years. Edited March 11, 2019 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: LOL Dak's contract just went WAY up. As Daboys said that's about 22 a year and that's for a SB MVP. I would make the argument he doesn't even deserve as much as Foles. But considering the market 22 seems fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: LOL Dak's contract just went WAY up. Foles getting $22 means Dak is going to push $30. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I would still let him play this year on his rookie deal. No reason to rush it. Dak doesn't seem to be a break out candidate. His rookie year is what we want him to get back to. More of a, he is what he is, (can we run with him more?) kinda guy. Let him play on his rookie deal. Then if he deserves it at the end of the season you tag him to see how you like spending premium space on him. Then if he deserves it you can lock him up after that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Foles getting $22 means Dak is going to push $30. And if the Jones are everybit the idiots we take them for we'll give it to him. I hope we sign Blake Bortles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DaBoys said: I would still let him play this year on his rookie deal. No reason to rush it. Dak doesn't seem to be a break out candidate. His rookie year is what we want him to get back to. More of a, he is what he is, (can we run with him more?) kinda guy. Let him play on his rookie deal. Then if he deserves it at the end of the season you tag him to see how you like spending premium space on him. Then if he deserves it you can lock him up after that. There is a reason to rush it. Give it to him this year we get to spread his signing bonus. So a 5 year $30m/year extensions becomes a $25m/yr average. Just now, Calvert28 said: And if the Jones are everybit the idiots we take them for we'll give it to him. I hope we sign Blake Bortles. The irony in this post is thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: There is a reason to rush it. Give it to him this year we get to spread his signing bonus. So a 5 year $30m/year extensions becomes a $25m/yr average. There is reason to not rush it. Don't give it to him this year and we get to pay him 720 thousand. Tag him next year(if he deserves it) for 23M and change. So the next two seasons become a $12m/yr average, and there is no negotiation. Edited March 11, 2019 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 You don't have to worry about QBs holding out. It's a bad look for a supposed captain and leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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