-Hope- Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Duluther said: That’s be embarrassing for Bill. To be OL coach when you’re son is your OC, and when your former QB is your HC. i don't think it's embarrassing at all. i imagine he's quite happy for his son, and sometimes coaches take pride in working for players they used to coach. dean pees has repeatedly said that one of the reasons he became the titans' defensive coordinator was because he was really excited to work for a guy he used to coach in vrabel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Duluther said: That’s be embarrassing for Bill. To be OL coach when you’re son is your OC, and when your former QB is your HC. Only if you ego is bigger than your love of family and friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Good hire. Carr showed growth in new areas this year. Did better in muddy pockets, extended plays, and improvised more. I'm sure Callahan had something to do with it. Swing for the fences Bengals. Good luck with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Well so much for Zac Taylor. Curious why they decided on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Well so much for Zac Taylor. Curious why they decided on him. Zac Taylor is supposed to be the head coach, with Brian Callahan as the OC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, TheVillain112 said: Zac Taylor is supposed to be the head coach, with Brian Callahan as the OC... read that wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTazeMeBro Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Assuming Taylor is going to call the plays he’s probably an OL coach w/a better salary and job title. Which would actually be a good hire imo edit: oops...wrong Callahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 11:16 PM, Duluther said: That’s be embarrassing for Bill. To be OL coach when you’re son is your OC, and when your former QB is your HC. You get full control over your OL and get to be the main influencer in the running game all while working for people that wouldn't have gotten to their current position without you? Yeah, how embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, IDOG_det said: You get full control over your OL and get to be the main influencer in the running game all while working for people that wouldn't have gotten to their current position without you? Yeah, how embarrassing Yes that would be embarrassing no matter how you put lipstick on it. Unless he genuinely doesn’t want a higher position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, IDOG_det said: You get full control over your OL and get to be the main influencer in the running game all while working for people that wouldn't have gotten to their current position without you? Yeah, how embarrassing BTW, it would appear that Bill Callahan is not going to be the OL coach. The Redskins FO basically confirmed he's coming back next year. So still a mystery who's going to fill that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, theJ said: BTW, it would appear that Bill Callahan is not going to be the OL coach. The Redskins FO basically confirmed he's coming back next year. So still a mystery who's going to fill that spot. They said they expect him back. They're posturing for some kind of compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, INbengalfan said: They said they expect him back. They're posturing for some kind of compensation. That's the only way he's coming over, and i can't see the Bengals offering up compensation for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, theJ said: That's the only way he's coming over, and i can't see the Bengals offering up compensation for him. With five sixth rounders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Duluther said: Yes that would be embarrassing no matter how you put lipstick on it. Unless he genuinely doesn’t want a higher position. The vast majority of OL coaches are very happy with "just" being an OL coach that is paid "just" over a million dollars a year. Most of them don't ever really want to be a head coach and those that do often don't want to after their first time being a head coach because their skills as an OL coach make them great at developing an elite defense or a great passing game (which is what you need to do as a HC to maintain that position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 hours ago, IDOG_det said: The vast majority of OL coaches are very happy with "just" being an OL coach that is paid "just" over a million dollars a year. Most of them don't ever really want to be a head coach and those that do often don't want to after their first time being a head coach because their skills as an OL coach make them great at developing an elite defense or a great passing game (which is what you need to do as a HC to maintain that position). Why are you generalizing so much, rather than being specific? I’d assume because the specifics don’t support you. Bill Callahan has not just been a OL coach; he was a HC twice. He may or may not desire to be one at this stage, which can’t be proven either either way so that’s be a speculative point at best, but the fact that he has had the desire and been a head coach refutes the point entirely. If you’ve got to put so much lipstick on something like this (i.e. all this theatrical spinning talk you’re doing), it’s probably because you’re putting it on a pig. Just put it as simple and unbiased as possible, no theatrics: we have a failed HC now (possibly) working under his son [oc] and his protege [hc]. Not to say it isn’t impossible for someone to be filled with pride moreso than embarrassment in this scenario, but that takes a particular kind of man (which ventures into a whole other discussion that is very specific to who Bill is as a person... which I won’t get into much, but I will say he was the HC of my team and his character, or lack thereof, is well documented). Let’s be clear: this isn’t the same thing as a father son business where after many years the father gets long in the tooth and hands the main duties to his longtime employee and his son. This is a case of him - calling a spade a spade - working under his son and protege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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