mr fluffles Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 hours ago, Karnage84 said: ours ago, Sllim Pickens said: It doesn’t have to be everyone drafted on the edge at the same time on the field. After the second round you are looking for depth, and we need it on the edge. I like going heavy on the d line and hoping some develop. I would probably prefer Oliver or Wilkins since we are looking for more 3/4 type ends who can get pressure. 20 hours ago, Karnage84 said: Which is why I wouldn't be opposed to going Ferrell/Allen if we were grabbing another guy in FA like Flowers. Allen has the size to play inside and out which would be helpful for depth. However, TE is quite weak in the FA class and we have a huge need already. I expect we address the spot in round 2 unless someone falls to us that we can't pass up. I don't think we'll add a QB earlier than round 6. They've brought Cook into the mix and there's a good chance that we bring back Cassell at minimum salary. Thanks for this. In retrospect, it was an oversight to have CB Love above Allen or Fant. Actually I'm sure Allen is being drafted much to low here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr fluffles Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 17 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: David Long WVU undrafted? Don't know much about him, itll get fixed for next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, mr fluffles said: Thanks for this. In retrospect, it was an oversight to have CB Love above Allen or Fant. Actually I'm sure Allen is being drafted much to low here. Thanks for working out a 7 round mock - I don't have the patience and you did a solid job overall. It's tough to know how to approach things for each team. This is such a deep class and there are teams with needs at positions like QB that could push a guy like Allen down the board. I make the connection based on: team need (de/edge) and Paul Pasqualoni/BC (our DC was Allen's coach) > scheme familiarity. I suspect that we are going to look to FA to address CB opposite of Slay and then dip into the draft for a slot guy. This is assuming that we don't retain Nevin Lawson (although we are likely going to add a CB or two for sure regardless). This is a pretty good TE class and we have a big need at the position. I don't see too many names in FA that will resolve the problem, so we are likely going to look to the draft to find "the guy" while adding other guys that might be able to contribute in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I'd be pretty bummed if we passed on Oliver. But if Ford grades out as the top OT, I can't knock the pick. Everything else fits a need except for McLaurin. This wouldn't be my favorite draft but it's certainly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Solid but I really don’t want another “young” receiver on this team. Would love Sweat in the 1st and Gerald Willis in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The Bears won't go OT, they are solid there and both are signed long term. CB, RB, S. or even OG would be more likely. Also, the Bears have the Eagles 7th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:23 AM, mr fluffles said: Comments appreciated! 1st Round 1 Arizona – Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State 2 San Francisco – Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama 3 NY Jets – Josh Allen, Edge, Kentucky 4 Oakland – Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan 5 Tampa Bay – Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma 6 NY Giants - Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State 7 Jacksonville – Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma 8 Detroit – Clelin Ferrell, Edge, Clemson 9 Buffalo – Ed Oliver, DT, Houston 10 Denver – Drew Lock, QB, Missouri 11 Cincinnati– Devin White, LB, LSU 12 Green Bay-- Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama 13 Miami – Jeffrey Simmons, DT, Mississippi State 14 Atlanta – Christian Wilkins, DL, Clemson 15 Washington – Daniel Jones, QB, Duke 16 Carolina – Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss 17 Cleveland – Greedy Williams, CB, LSU 18 Minnesota - Garrett Bradbury, IOL, North Carolina 19 Tennessee - DK Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss 20 Pittsburgh - Montez Sweat, Edge, Mississippi State 21 Seattle – Brian Burns, Edge, Florida State 22 Baltimore - Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma 23 Houston -Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida 24 Oakland (from Chi) – Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama 25 Philadelphia - Byron Murphy, CB, Washington 26 Indianapolis - Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson 27 Oakland (from Dallas) – N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State 28 LA Chargers - Dre’Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State 29 Kansas City - Devon Bush, LB, Michigan 30 Green Bay (from New Orleans) – Nassir Adderley, S, Delaware 31 New England – TJ Hockenson, TE, Iowa 32 LA Rams - Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State Curious where you get your players from, you see all of these guys play or just take guys off other lists you have see? Just a few comments I had on it... Also you are missing all the compensatory picks so instead of 224 total it is more like 256 total picks so another 32 picks should be included. 1st Round 5 Tampa Bay – Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma Would be nuts if he went this high, good player but to me no way he is top 5 pick in the draft good. 7 Jacksonville – Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma Would be very exciting but such a reach, especially for a guy who could just say hey I will go play baseball now 10 Denver – Drew Lock, QB, Missouri Has a lot of moxie and a great arm, this would be a reach for him though 11 Cincinnati– Devin White, LB, LSU Too low for the best linebacker in the draft[b/ 18 Minnesota - Garrett Bradbury, IOL, North Carolina No freaking thank you. With Taylor still there or Risner give me those guys all day over Bradbury who is arguably not even the best center in the draft potentially. will see 30 Green Bay (from New Orleans) – Nassir Adderley, S, Delaware He is going to be a riser, I hope he does not go to Green Bay though. 2nd Round 39 Tampa Bay – Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama Could totally see him drop this far but would be a steal at this point 41 Denver – Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia Why would he drop this far? Unless he has a horrible combine I doubt this happens 55 Houston- Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple Does have a good build and is an interesting CB, could happen 60 LA Chargers – Terrill Hanks, LB, New Mexico State Really? He is ok as a talent but I think this would be a big time reach for him 62 Kansas City- Taylor Rapp, S, Washington Is a 1st rounder all the way I feel 3rd Round 68 NY Jets- Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis Would be surprised to see him fall this far 69 Jacksonville – Dawson Knox, TE, Mississippi Picked over Jace, no freaking way, Knox is big time overrated I feel and had a pretty lack luster career overall 81 Cleveland- Chima Udoga, OT, USC I agree, he is a rising come draft time 87 Houston- Jaquan Johnson, S, Miami Maybe could fall if he works out poorly but teams would be getting a steal then 91 Dallas- Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia On the field based on his play he is a 2nd round pick all the way, very interesting safety talent 96 Jacksonville (from LAR)- Saivion Smith, CB, Alabama What about him makes him a 3rd round pick? He was only a starter because Diggs got injured on Alabama this season really. Talented kid but should have went back for another year I feel. 4th Round 100 Oakland- Kendall Sheffield, CB, Ohio State I thought he went back to school? 106 Buffalo - Beau Benzschawel, IOL, Wisconsin I feel is arguably better than his teammate Deiter, way more athletic that is for sure 108 Green Bay – Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo With what he did at the senior bowl I think no way he drops past the 3rd but will see 110 Miami- Jared Stidham, QB, Auburn This late? To me he is 2nd rounder all the way, this would be a steal and a half at this point 114 Minnesota- Andy Isabella, WR, UMass Should be drafted in the 3rd or 2nd, will have a blazing combine 40 time no doubt 115 Tennessee – Ed Alexander, DT, LSU Honestly I thought he has disappointed and never really stood out this year on LSU 121 Philadelphia – Bennie Snell, RB, Kentucky One of the most physical and competitive backs to come into the league in a long time falls this far? I hope not, the kid is a beast and a half 127 New England – Ryan Finley, QB, NC State Sure polished QB and probably will not fall this far 5th Round 134 Cleveland (from Jacksonville) – Chase Hansen, LB, Utah A LB who played safety and has cover skills fall this far, I really doubt that 135 Tampa Bay – Iman Marshall, CB, USC One of the best man to man cover corners in the draft fall this far, I doubt it, he should be a 2nd rounder or 3rd at worst 136 Detroit- Jimmy Moreland, CB, James Madison Fine prospect will more likely be a 3rd or 4th rounder 141 Miami – Lil’Jordan Humphrey, WR, Texas A great athlete fall this far, I doubt it 150 Baltimore – Sione Takitaki, LB, BYU Amazing senior year, doubt he falls this far this kid can play and is a tackling machine 151 Houston- Bryce Love, RB, Stanford Could see this happening, especially with his health issue 157 New Orleans- Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo Is a 2nd or 3rd round pick I feel, kid can play and is a good WR 160 LA Rams- Justin Hollins, Edge, Oregon Really? Long athletic freak show OLB, is a 2nd rounder all the way to me just on physical tools alone 6th Round 166 Tampa Bay – Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State His special teams ability could make him go a lot higher than this potentially 176 Miami- Martez Ivey, IOL, Florida A lot of people do not like him but as a potential OG I feel he could be really good, not sure he is a tackle in the NFL but never thought his career was all that bad to drop this far 181 Baltimore- Gardner Minshew, QB, Washington State Such a great game manager, would be surprised to see him drop this far. The Saints I feel would not keep passing him up over and over when he has a lot of Brees type traits and already knows how to check the ball down to the backs and Sean Payton throws a ton to the backs. 187 Indianapolis – Shareef Miller, Edge, Penn State Doubt he falls this far but could happen, really he should have came back to school could of been in the conversation to be a 1st or 2nd rounder possibly 7th Round 195 NY Jets – Jamal Custis, WR, Syracuse Freak show athlete, is worth a higher pick that this but will see 197 Pittsburgh (From TB) - Donald Parham, TE, Stetson Tall kid and athletic, see how the combine is but really he is so damn skinny in the legs might be hard to succeed 207 Miami – CJ Conrad, TE, Kentucky One of the most complete TEs in the draft, doubt he falls this far 208 Atlanta- Keke Kingsley, DT, Texas A&M With how quick he is and a possibly 3/4 DE doubt he falls this far 214 Cleveland (from Bal) - Alex Bars, IOL, Notre Dame If he did not get injured could argue he was the best OG prospect in college, will see what happens but that kid can play if he can come back healthy 215 Denver (from Hou) - Trevon Wesco, FB, West Virginia I agree, as a HB or TE he is very interesting 224 Denver (from LAR) –Rashad Fenton, CB, South Carolina No way he is worth drafting I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr fluffles Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Ozzy said: Curious where you get your players from, you see all of these guys play or just take guys off other lists you have see? Just a few comments I had on it... Also you are missing all the compensatory picks so instead of 224 total it is more like 256 total picks so another 32 picks should be included. Thanks for the comprehensive feedback. I definitely don't see all of them play, its a combination of watching some of the top guys play, keeping a pulse on the draft community to see how players are regarded by the NFL and following some of the more reputable websites and analyst's lists. I try to look at team needs, their offensive/defensive philosophies and previous year's trends. The most fun part for me is matching players based on team fits. This early on, its a little more of a crapshoot though. Regarding some of your player notes: Cody Ford- love him as a prospect. For a big and powerful guy he sets so quickly and fluidly, and has a little salt in his pants. Seems to me like exactly what NFL teams are looking for since hes so good in pass pro. Sure he gets a little lazy and inconsistent in his technique but he has so much natural talent. Nassir Aderly- suddenly feels like such a Raiders pick with Gruden and Guenther both gushing over him. I'll change this one in the next iteration. Terrill Hanks- another guy I love, mostly off of his highlights from the week. Looking like Tarzan, blowing up running backs and running all over the place. I haven't watched much of him but I bet a team will like him enough to make him a day 2 pick based on this week. All of the WRs that feel - honestly it was so hard to slot these guys. There is so much talent from day 2 on at the position. I lowered the priority for guys who don't have amazing upside (Anthony Johnson) or who may not run that well (L'J Humphrey) but honestly I have no idea how they'll all shape out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, mr fluffles said: Thanks for the comprehensive feedback. I definitely don't see all of them play, its a combination of watching some of the top guys play, keeping a pulse on the draft community to see how players are regarded by the NFL and following some of the more reputable websites and analyst's lists. I try to look at team needs, their offensive/defensive philosophies and previous year's trends. The most fun part for me is matching players based on team fits. This early on, its a little more of a crapshoot though. Regarding some of your player notes: Cody Ford- love him as a prospect. For a big and powerful guy he sets so quickly and fluidly, and has a little salt in his pants. Seems to me like exactly what NFL teams are looking for since hes so good in pass pro. Sure he gets a little lazy and inconsistent in his technique but he has so much natural talent. Nassir Aderly- suddenly feels like such a Raiders pick with Gruden and Guenther both gushing over him. I'll change this one in the next iteration. Terrill Hanks- another guy I love, mostly off of his highlights from the week. Looking like Tarzan, blowing up running backs and running all over the place. I haven't watched much of him but I bet a team will like him enough to make him a day 2 pick based on this week. All of the WRs that feel - honestly it was so hard to slot these guys. There is so much talent from day 2 on at the position. I lowered the priority for guys who don't have amazing upside (Anthony Johnson) or who may not run that well (L'J Humphrey) but honestly I have no idea how they'll all shape out. I agree it is a crap shoot, think this is a crap shoot try making a 7 round Mock for the up coming year in January the year before it happens. I had one it May of last year for this up coming year, currently have one for 2020 now but no teams included because that is really guess work because the order is not even for sure yet. Ford I like I just think he is a gamble that early, I thought Orlando Brown Jr was a mid 1st rounder to high 1st rounder. I had Brown as a 1st round pick potentially as a RS SOPH even the year before. And to me Brown is a better player and he struggled obviously at the combine but was able to be a starter and a decent rookie year for the Ravens. Ford is not as good as Brown was I feel and that offense is very quick tempo and fast passing so sacking the QB is hard to do, much less when you have Murray back there who is as athletic as hell. But I do feel OU had arguably the best OL in college football last year, tons of good players on that group. Adderley is a damn good prospect, thought he did well in the Senior bowl, and if he times as fast as he is supposed to in the 40 1st round is totally a possibility for him. Did Hanks do that well in the Senior Bowl? I might have to readdress him and watch him some more, he sure is strong at the point of attack but hard to rank how good he is on such a poor defensive unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atown703 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 excellent draft for Carolina. I'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ers Finest Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Id be happy with this draft in april Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 As a Packers fan, I would pass on OL Jonah Williams and QB Tyree Jackson. I'm not sure Williams is athletic enough for OT in the NFL, and while RG is the biggest need, the Packers normally take interior OL from the 4th or 5th round... also they draft defense with the 1st round picks a huge amount of times... and they have big needs at edge and DB... and not a single DB has been taken yet... Packers GM, loves athletes and would probably take the 1st DB off the board... though already covered Safety at #30, they could still use an elite CB as neither starting CB (King nor Alexander) have a track record for staying healthy during an entire season. Also the Packers have QB Kizer as a back-up who the GM is said to have loved coming out of the draft, and the 3rd string QB Boyle looked extremely raw but had a number of tools that you can't teach... if he developed at all he could be a future #2 QB for sure. But everything else, I really liked for the Packers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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