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8 minutes ago, WindyCity said:

What is your definition of high end?

What positions will these high end player be?

I think we could see some high end backups or talented guys who need a change of scenery.

I think they make a move for Hunt...I also think they try and get Amos or Callahan or possibly even both.

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Just now, Madmike90 said:

I think they make a move for Hunt...I also think they try and get Amos or Callahan or possibly even both.

I agree with Hunt and at least one of Callahan and Amos.

Hunt from a football and financial stand point is a no brainer. That level of impact for that level of money is a football must.

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15 minutes ago, WindyCity said:

I agree with Hunt and at least one of Callahan and Amos.

Hunt from a football and financial stand point is a no brainer. That level of impact for that level of money is a football must.

I wouldn't be that upset if we lost Amos and Callahan.  Especially if they end up being pricey.

I would be really disappointed if we didn't get Hunt, or Hunt ends up being costly all because we didn't take him off waivers.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, dll2000 said:

I wouldn't be that upset if we lost Amos and Callahan.  Especially if they end up being pricey.

I would be really disappointed if we didn't get Hunt, or Hunt ends up being costly all because we didn't take him off waivers.

 

 

 

 

I believe NFL had a wink wink verbal memo that said nobody claim him for PR reasons.  So I can't fault Bears too much

 

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4 hours ago, WindyCity said:

I agree with Hunt and at least one of Callahan and Amos.

Hunt from a football and financial stand point is a no brainer. That level of impact for that level of money is a football must.

If they do move on Hunt that would likely mean Pace will look to trade Howard some time prior to the draft which would add another draft pick and also free up $2 mil in cap.  How much of that would be used on Hunt I can't say but my feeling would be not much.

I can't see Pace tying up a whole lot of money in him initially.

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My guess is the Bears will want a 2 year deal with Hunt that replicates that last 2 of his rookie deal. 2 years 3 million.

He will want 1 year and after that he would be a RFA which would be a raise for him 4.9 million [1st round tender] and 3.9 million [2nd round tender].

He will be the best bang for their buck that the Bears can get.

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Keep Kyle Long because they are going to.

Cut Acho and Sims and Parkey  

Amos and Callahan walk.

T Suggs 1 year 4 million guaranteed.

CJ Uzomah 1.3 million x 3 years.

Witzmann Vet minimum x 1 year 

Journeyman vet Corner  vet minimum x 1

K Robbie Gould 3.5 million x3 years  fully guaranteed  

Journeyman S vet minimum x 1 

Journeyman RB vet minimum x1

Resign RRH.

Bush steps into starting SS.  Tolliver, Prince and Fuller are 3 corners. I don’t know who plays slot, whoever can. McMannis is 1st depth.

Draft

S, RB, Best Available x2 in no particular order.

That math work?

 

 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, dll2000 said:

Keep Kyle Long because they are going to.

Cut Acho and Sims and Parkey  

Amos and Callahan walk.

T Suggs 1 year 4 million guaranteed.

CJ Uzomah 1.3 million x 3 years.

Witzmann Vet minimum x 1 year 

Journeyman vet Corner  vet minimum x 1

K Robbie Gould 3.5 million x3 years  fully guaranteed  

Journeyman S vet minimum x 1 

Journeyman RB vet minimum x1

Resign RRH.

Bush steps into starting SS.  Tolliver, Prince and Fuller are 3 corners. I don’t know who plays slot, whoever can. McMannis is 1st depth.

Draft

S, RB, Best Available x2 in no particular order.

That math work?

 

 

 

 

Gould is staying in San Francisco. It's all but a done deal. Let's move on to Gostkowski or a draft pick or something.

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1 hour ago, beardown3231 said:

Gould is staying in San Francisco. It's all but a done deal. Let's move on to Gostkowski or a draft pick or something.

I thought so too and to be honest I personally don't want to spend money on a kicker.  Above is more like possibilities.  But @soulman I think posted an interview of him saying he would come for 3 years guaranteed.

So unless SF tags him it is an outside possibility.

 

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We save 1.87. by not cutting Parkey. 

Outside chance they keep Parkey on roster and let him compete for a job as unpopular as that is.

 

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I can't sign him (Gould) anyway.  Too much even at 3.5 unless they did creative accounting.

Assuming we bring back Long.

We have to sign RRH, Coward, Scales, G,TE, RB, CB, OLB, S, P, K and the Draft Class.

11 veteran players plus a couple million or so for draft class with about 13.5 million.  Plus you want a reserve of something.  All those signings will be journeyman guys by necessity except MAYBE one.

I'm not sure how we sign Amos or Callahan.  Math just doesn't work as far as I can tell.   But imagine yourself at this time last year worried primarily about resigning Amos and Callahan.  They are good players that looked better because of surrounding talent.

Pace really needs to hit on at least one guy in this draft.  No easy feat when you are starting in 3rd round.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, beardown3231 said:

Gould is staying in San Francisco. It's all but a done deal. Let's move on to Gostkowski or a draft pick or something.

Seems to be now that they say they'll tag him if they can't work out a deal.  Of course that could change but it's not lookin' good for us now.

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Yeah he's getting tagged

RT @MaioccoNBCS: It looks logical — and, perhaps, a foregone conclusion — the #49ers will use their franchise tag on Robbie Gould if they are unable to agree on a multi-year extension.

https://t.co/pdYIe8a7HK

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7 minutes ago, dll2000 said:

I can't sign him (Gould) anyway.  Too much even at 3.5 unless they did creative accounting.

Assuming we bring back Long.

We have to sign RRH, Coward, Scales, G,TE, RB, CB, OLB, S, P, K and the Draft Class.

11 veteran players plus a couple million or so for draft class with about 13.5 million.  Plus you want a reserve of something.  All those signings will be journeyman guys by necessity except MAYBE one.

I'm not sure how we sign Amos or Callahan.  Math just doesn't work as far as I can tell.   But imagine yourself at this time last year worried primarily about resigning Amos and Callahan.  They are good players that looked better because of surrounding talent.

Pace really needs to hit on at least one guy in this draft.  No easy feat when you are starting in 3rd round.

 

 

 

 

RRH and Coward are both ERFA so they'll both be retained cheaply enough.

I'm already assuming we have little or no shot at keeping Amos.  If Pace valued him as highly as I believe Amos and his agent value him I feel he would have extended him before this year.  I think he's a very good and very discipline player but not a huge playmaker who'll be looking for a top five deal that's far more $$$ than Pace will want to spend on him.  Some folks have been tossing around number like $5-$6 mil APY and it's not even close to what he'll be seeking.  Love to keep him but not for the kind of money Jackson is gonna end up getting.

Callahan on the other seems worth more to us despite his injuries and missed games.  He's smart, he's instinctive, he can cover, he has a nose for the ball and he's not a bad PR either.  Pace felt strongly enough about him that he tendered him at $1.9 mil last season so I'm thinking he'll at least make him an offer on a 3-4 year deal quite possibly with some incentives and per game roster bonuses to offset a decent guarantee at signing.  His injury history may actually make him a little easier to bargain with and keep his cost so I'm about 60/40 we can sign him.

Of course Pace may opt to let both test the waters and look to sign one guy like Honey Badger who can play both Slot CB and Safety, work with Bush and McManis as well, and spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on either a Safety or a top Slot CB prospect.  Mathieu should command a deal somewhat in the same range as Callahan is predicted to get and he's a year younger and more versatile.  So maybe 60/40 on this possibility as well.  I don't think we see Tolliver moving into the slot myself but rather as the guy they hope can take Amukamara's place in 2020 when his cap cost hit's $10 mil.

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Good news is there really isn't many open spots to fill. Impact players are in place.  Depth is the problem. 

Early look at 53 shows holes that have to be filled via draft or FA:

 WRs (6) - Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, Wims, Bellamy, Gentry

RBs (4) Howard, Cohen, Open, Nall?

FB (1) OPEN

TEs (4) Burton, Shaheen, Braunecker (ERFA), Open

OL (9) Rashaad Coward (RFA), James Daniels, Charles Leno Jr., Kyle Long, Bobby Massie, Bradley Sowell, Cody Whitehair, Witzmann (UFA), Open

QB (2) MT, Daniel

DL (5) Jonathan Bullard, Eddie Goldman, Roy Robertson-Harris (ERFA), Akiem Hicks, Bilal Nichols.

LB (9) Kylie Fitts, Leonard Floyd, Isaiah Irving (ERFA), Joel Iyiegbuniwe, Nick Kwiatkoski, Roquan Smith, Danny Trevathan, Khalil Mack, OPEN

DB (10)  Prince Amukamara, Deon Bush, Kyle Fuller, DeAndre Houston-Carson, Eddie Jackson, Sherrick McManis, Kevin Toliver II, Rashard Fant, OPEN, OPEN

Specialists (3) K OPEN, P OPEN, LS OPEN

Above doesn't include at least 3 unknown draft picks who will make the team. They will fill in an OPEN spot or replace someone.

 

 

 

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