dll2000 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Starters DL = Hicks, Goldman, Nichols OLB = Mack, Floyd ILB = Smith, Trevathan CBs = Prince, Fuller, Tolliver (I say Tolliver and Prince battle for outside starter in offseason and loser goes to NCB) S = Jackson, Bush OL = Leno, Daniels, Whitehair, Long, Massie QB = MT RB = Howard/Cohen WR = Robinson, Gabriel, Miller TE = Shaheen/Burton If a rookie/FA can supplant one of those guys then great, but pretty much everyone else is just depth and rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, soulman said: RRH and Coward are both ERFA so they'll both be retained cheaply enough. I'm already assuming we have little or no shot at keeping Amos. If Pace valued him as highly as I believe Amos and his agent value him I feel he would have extended him before this year. I think he's a very good and very discipline player but not a huge playmaker who'll be looking for a top five deal that's far more $$$ than Pace will want to spend on him. Some folks have been tossing around number like $5-$6 mil APY and it's not even close to what he'll be seeking. Love to keep him but not for the kind of money Jackson is gonna end up getting. Callahan on the other seems worth more to us despite his injuries and missed games. He's smart, he's instinctive, he can cover, he has a nose for the ball and he's not a bad PR either. Pace felt strongly enough about him that he tendered him at $1.9 mil last season so I'm thinking he'll at least make him an offer on a 3-4 year deal quite possibly with some incentives and per game roster bonuses to offset a decent guarantee at signing. His injury history may actually make him a little easier to bargain with and keep his cost so I'm about 60/40 we can sign him. Of course Pace may opt to let both test the waters and look to sign one guy like Honey Badger who can play both Slot CB and Safety, work with Bush and McManis as well, and spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on either a Safety or a top Slot CB prospect. Mathieu should command a deal somewhat in the same range as Callahan is predicted to get and he's a year younger and more versatile. So maybe 60/40 on this possibility as well. I don't think we see Tolliver moving into the slot myself but rather as the guy they hope can take Amukamara's place in 2020 when his cap cost hit's $10 mil. See all those bold OPENs and (ERFA and FA) above. You can't sign Callahan or Honey Badger and also fill all those OPENs. 14 guys with about 13.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, dll2000 said: See all those bold OPENs and (ERFA and FA) above. You can't sign Callahan or Honey Badger and also fill all those OPENs. 14 guys with about 13.5 million. Gotta get caught up. What's the basis for the $13.5 mil? Spotrac has us at $5.9 mil and change, Top 51. So you've added in releasing who? Sims and Acho? That would add roughly $8.7 mil and put us at $14.6 mil. Beyond that my guess is we may do a little bit of restructuring. Mack probably makes the most sense since he'll be here for at least another 4-5 years. Long makes less sense if we want an option to release him in 2020. I'm 99.9% sure it won't be this year. Converting $8 mil of Mack's salary to a signing bonus or roster bonuses gets us some breathing room. What are you thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 The Bears have about 16 million for 10 guys without touching Mack’s money. I think they can afford 1 multi year deal for 6-8 million. I do not think they can afford 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 11 hours ago, soulman said: Gotta get caught up. What's the basis for the $13.5 mil? Spotrac has us at $5.9 mil and change, Top 51. So you've added in releasing who? Sims and Acho? That would add roughly $8.7 mil and put us at $14.6 mil. Beyond that my guess is we may do a little bit of restructuring. Mack probably makes the most sense since he'll be here for at least another 4-5 years. Long makes less sense if we want an option to release him in 2020. I'm 99.9% sure it won't be this year. Converting $8 mil of Mack's salary to a signing bonus or roster bonuses gets us some breathing room. What are you thinking? According to Spotrac: Release Acho, Sims and Parkey puts you at roughly 12.5, just Sims and Acho puts you at roughly 13.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I haven’t kept up on this a ton, but right when we got knocked out of the playoffs the talk was that after the obvious releases we’d have about $30M. What changed since then? We haven’t signed or extended anyone since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said: I haven’t kept up on this a ton, but right when we got knocked out of the playoffs the talk was that after the obvious releases we’d have about $30M. What changed since then? We haven’t signed or extended anyone since then. We resigned Massie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said: I haven’t kept up on this a ton, but right when we got knocked out of the playoffs the talk was that after the obvious releases we’d have about $30M. What changed since then? We haven’t signed or extended anyone since then. Bobbie Massie 4 million Howard 1.5 million Kwitkowsi 1.5 million That is without the draft and emergency money they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 They need to fill in and sign these positions for 53, you can subtract at least 3 of these guys via draft (odds are 7th rounder will likely get cut or put on practice squad): 2 RBs unless you are counting Nall or Mizzell then 1. 1 FB 2 TEs (1 is likely going to be Braunecker) 3 OL (1 is likely Coward) 1 DL (Likely RRH) Two if they cut Bullard which is an outside possibility. 2 OLBs One is likely Irving. 3 DBs One is likely DHC. Other 2 could be anybody, highly likely at least one is a draft pick. 3 Specialists all have to be signed. Two if Parkey somehow stays on. Parkey winning a job saves 1.125 million in cap space cutting him costs same. So 17 roster spots of 53 that have to be filled or signed. At least 3 will be filled with draft picks. Now there are already 51 guys on roster making math funny, but I don't see a large number of those guys making 53. A lot of those are camp bodies. You can subtract those dudes from salary cap. I did that here: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/chicago-bears/2019/bfe743def2d9fa9e4162fcee9dc6686f/ That gives us $19,233,601 to sign 14 guys and 3 draft picks. Projected 53 as of February 2019: WRs (6) - Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, Wims, (UFA) Bellamy, Gentry RBs (4) Howard, Cohen, Open, Nall?/Mizzell? FB (1) OPEN TEs (4) Burton, Shaheen, Braunecker (ERFA), Open OL (9) Rashaad Coward (RFA), James Daniels, Charles Leno Jr., Kyle Long, Bobby Massie, Bradley Sowell, Cody Whitehair, Witzmann (UFA), Open QB (2) MT, Daniel DL (5) Jonathan Bullard, Eddie Goldman, Roy Robertson-Harris (ERFA), Akiem Hicks, Bilal Nichols. LB (9) Kylie Fitts, Leonard Floyd, Isaiah Irving (ERFA), Joel Iyiegbuniwe, Nick Kwiatkoski, Roquan Smith, Danny Trevathan, Khalil Mack, OPEN DB (10) Prince Amukamara, Deon Bush, Kyle Fuller, DeAndre Houston-Carson (ERFA), Eddie Jackson, Sherrick McManis, Kevin Toliver II, Rashard Fant, OPEN, OPEN Specialists (3) K OPEN, P OPEN, LS OPEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 It looks to me like almost everyone they sign going forward in 2019 will be very low end. Maybe 1 guy in 4 million range. I don't see Amos or Callahan coming back. Going to really work the in-league scouting department to find cheap value. Might see a number of guys make team after training camp cuts. I think they can't afford an $8 million player without reworking existing contracts. I think their starters are good as is though, DB depth, TE depth, OL depth and OLB depth is bad, but honestly that is true of almost every team. Kinda sucks that all of our specialists have to be resigned. I think last season was 2 off seasons worth of transactions and resigning Massie was necessary so I am not shocked. If we find 2 good drafted players it will make a huge difference for this team going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, dll2000 said: According to Spotrac: Release Acho, Sims and Parkey puts you at roughly 12.5, just Sims and Acho puts you at roughly 13.5. Don't know why the $1 mil difference but close enough for planning purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 What a weird offseason this will be, no rebuild, no glaring holes, no big storyline. Did not expect to be desperately worried about whether we could keep a NB or a SS as our number 1 problem. Kind of like when you finally fix everything on your crappy house/car/boat etc. Hopefully that's not when the water main breaks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 Bears cap space 7 million +6 million (Sims) +2 million (Acho) +8 top 51 fall off 23 million -2.75 Draft -3 Emmergencies 16.25 Functional Free Agent Budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 https://247sports.com/nfl/chicago-bears/Article/Bears-salary-cap-post-Dion-Sims-129305878/?utm_source=247Sports Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=190220_195232_Chicago Bears Newsletter&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=C3-52-7D-DF-F0-AF-8E-1A-53-7F-74-41-9D-F1-31-5F190220_195232ChicagoBearsNewsletter Bears salary cap space after reportedly releasing Dion Sims Spotrac was quick to revise the cap space for Chicago and has the team currently at $11,756,935 in free space. That is a jump up in space from the roughly $6 million the team was sitting at prior to this reported decision to move on from Sims. The biggest cap hit for Chicago in 2019 will be All-Pro pass-rusher Khalil Mack. He is set to make $22.3 million. Wideout Allen Robinson is behind him at $15 million. Cornerback Kyle Fuller is set to make $13.5 million. The first place the Bears could look to free up some money is with guard Kyle Long. He is set to make $8.5 million this upcoming year. If the Bears feel confident they can convince Long to stay with a restructured deal, that would make a lot of sense. If not, moving on from him could help the team free up some money. Chicago could release him this offseason and save $5.5 million in cap space. The issue then would be finding a suitable replacement for long at the right guard position. Chicago is not in a bad spot when it comes to cap space and the Sims release will help free up some cash for them to still be players in the market. It is unlikely that Chicago will be able to lure any huge names to the Bears, but they will have enough space to make some moves which could improve the roster for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just a quick scan of those top contract along with Kyle Long shows there is the possibility of gaining some additional cap space now if Pace and Laine feel they need it. Between Mack, ARob, and Long I think we could easily pick up another $10 mil via restructuring those deals a bit. Fuller is probably not on we want to touch though. With other key players due for extensions next year it will be interesting to see just how Pace and Laine handle the challenge of keeping their core intact. I think it goes without saying that we may lose one or two and that may start with Amos or Callahan or both. But if they're releasing Sims now does it also mean another signing is near? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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