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Was that Belichick's defensive masterpiece?


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Rams went from looking immortal in the regular season to getting achilles heeled by the bears defense so it was never not a possibility for this to happen. The rams offense showed it is entirely possible for it to get completely shut down and that’s what happened. Good defense by the old pouty hoodie jedi guy

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Absolutely.

And Goff was his inconsistent self again. I really like him, but he's had major bouts of incompetence throughout his young career. It didn't help that his team didn't show up...particularly his OL. Blythe the RG was dominated all game long and he had almost no time to make a decision. The Patriots were blanketing the underneath routes and there was not enough time to push the ball vertically.

 

And wtf are the Rams doing with Gurley? He's your best player and you're sitting him on the sidelines. I don't get that unless he's secretly injured still.

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If Belicheck has two weeks to prepare against you, you’d better do a lot of self scouting and change your game plan. Throw in a few trick plays like the Eagles did. If you think you can just call the same plays you did all year against Belicheck, you’re going to have a bad time.

Unless you have Eli. Then you can do whatever the you want.

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Did the Rams throw a single ball to a TE? It felt like they either ran the ball up the middle or Goff threw a duck into coverage.

 

Their game plan made no sense and there was no misdirection. Goff was extra terrible, really disheartening if I were a Rams fan. 

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Colts '04 was better on multiple levels. A better QB, a better offense as a whole, and more than that they were coming off a record-setting offensive year in which the league (at the Colts GM's urging) and "re-emphasised" a rule specifically to impact the way the Pats played defense and help the Colts win.

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9 hours ago, Riftty said:

 This game was Bill>Mcvay and Wade>McDaniels. Both the young guys got schooled. 

McDaniels made nothing happen until the touchdown drive. He called the same play three times in a row (Hoss Y-Juke), and Wade's defense had no answer because they weren't prepared for the Patriots to do what they did out of 22-personnel, and because Gronk is still pretty okay.

 

35 minutes ago, CKS97 said:

Kyle Van Noy, Hightower, Flowers- below average on any other team.

C+ players elevated by Belichick

Maybe Van Noy, but Hightower and Flowers are not below average players.

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9 hours ago, Gmen said:

If Belicheck has two weeks to prepare against you, you’d better do a lot of self scouting and change your game plan. Throw in a few trick plays like the Eagles did. If you think you can just call the same plays you did all year against Belicheck, you’re going to have a bad time.

Unless you have Eli. Then you can do whatever the you want.

^^^ This!

We'd actually discussed it a bit more in-depth in our sub-forum, but Wade actually went against type and his unit performed damn well for what we've come to expect from it against high-powered offenses.  McVay didn't.  McVay's lack of seasoning showed heavily last night - and it's reared it's ugly head several times in his tenure, the main one a lot of us refer back to being the game against the Vikings in his first season.  This may sound a bit odd, but it was very McDaniels-ish both in prep and execution.  There are certain things he needs to grow out of and doesn't necessarily appear to learn until he's been smacked in the face with them (fortunately, he has shown that when he does rebound, he learns from his mistakes).  He got a shiny, new toy (or rather a refurbished Xbox after being a Playstation devotee) and he became the dude from the meme checking out the passing girl's butt while his gf looks at him in disgust.

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1 hour ago, AlNFL19 said:

McDaniels made nothing happen until the touchdown drive. He called the same play three times in a row (Hoss Y-Juke), and Wade's defense had no answer because they weren't prepared for the Patriots to do what they did out of 22-personnel, and because Gronk is still pretty okay.

 

Maybe Van Noy, but Hightower and Flowers are not below average players.

I agree with you on Flowers.  Hightower and Van Noy are the exact type of players (Danny Shelton too) who have been Belichick's bread and butter ever since the original future HOF'ers like Seymour and Wilfork retired/left.  The guys who caught massive hype as prospects coming into the league and had the motor and the mind for the game, but when they weren't as dominant as they were in college for the GM's that originally spent high picks on them, they were let to walk right into the waiting arms of Dirty Bill who knew how to scheme them properly to accent their strengths and shield their weaknesses.  They didn't need to be great, they just needed to be consistent - and to come up when it really mattered (which is a quality you'll find in most of the failed 1st rounders that don't have huge egos or have had those egos humbled correctly by their failure to live up to the hype).  These reclamation projects are Belichick's new "sign the ring-hunting, heels of their primes former Pro Bowlers" from 5-7 years ago.

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The Rams offense seems really overrated now. 

They couldn't pass and they couldn't run even though the score was basically tied until halfway into the fourth quarter.  They didn't have to abandon the run and they didn't need big passing plays downfield.  The whole playbook was open to them and they still couldn't do anything.  BB giftwrapped a blueprint for every defense in the NFC.

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31 minutes ago, The LBC said:

I agree with you on Flowers.  Hightower and Van Noy are the exact type of players (Danny Shelton too) who have been Belichick's bread and butter ever since the original future HOF'ers like Seymour and Wilfork retired/left.  The guys who caught massive hype as prospects coming into the league and had the motor and the mind for the game, but when they weren't as dominant as they were in college for the GM's that originally spent high picks on them, they were let to walk right into the waiting arms of Dirty Bill who knew how to scheme them properly to accent their strengths and shield their weaknesses.  They didn't need to be great, they just needed to be consistent - and to come up when it really mattered (which is a quality you'll find in most of the failed 1st rounders that don't have huge egos or have had those egos humbled correctly by their failure to live up to the hype).  These reclamation projects are Belichick's new "sign the ring-hunting, heels of their primes former Pro Bowlers" from 5-7 years ago.

The Patriots drafted Hightower though...

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38 minutes ago, AlNFL19 said:

The Patriots drafted Hightower though...

This is true.  For some reason I had him mixed up with Shea McClellin and a couple other LB's that have cycled through.  It's seemed like Belichick has one LB that's the "must-keep" and all others are disposable - not that they're looking to get rid of them, but that they're replaceable with another of that "mold of LB" that get drafted to be "a playmaker" and when they turn out to just be a quality football player they're not prioritized to retain by the team drafting them (and in a number of cases it seems the Pats benefit from picking up the castoffs from the less successful teams that go through coaching staff overhauls - and, as such, scheme overhauls/switches).

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