Thaiphoon Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/4/2019 at 11:13 PM, x0x said: Dude, I agree those are better players overall, especially Sterling who I rate ahead of Rice in terms of peak value. However that's just not how the Hall works. That said I did go ahead and bold the guys I DO think get in at some point. While Thomas and Hilton are still very much active and could go in. You also forgot Cliff Branch who should get in at some point I think is more political than anything. Some of those guys are probably in already with just 1 ring if not with 2. Guys like Fryar and Henry Ellard. While guys like Moore and Sterling had too short of record but even still probably get in with a couple rings (Sterling will get in eventually though as he was more dominant). Have you seen some of the names in the Hall? The senior committee in particular has put some questionable guys in recently like Floyd Little and Fred Dean. I'm not even bringing up Lynn Swann or Troy Aikman. I'm curious. Out of footbull's list that you didn't bold Gary Clark. Any particular reason why? For reference this is who you bolded: Quote If Edelman is ever inducted, even in the hypothetical scenario you described, then I want Gary Clark, Sterling Sharpe, Mark Clayton, Rod Smith, Harold Carmichael, Henry Ellard, Brandon Marshall, Stanley Morgan, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, Andre Rison, Herman Moore, Steve Smith, Jimmy Smith, Irving Fryar, Roddy White, Hines Ward, Wes Chandler, Joe Horn, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Drew Pearson, Eric Moulds, Demaryius Thomas, Ahmad Rashad, Mike Quick, Harold Jackson, Wes Welker, and a lot of other receivers that are either currently active and just entering their prime or that I can’t think of right now inducted into the Hall of Fame as well Because they were WAY better players than Edelman and none of them are getting in any time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 NO. theres a ton better wrs. he is/was good but if they start letting guys like him in u might as well start letting other wrs in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminence Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I'm leaning yes, but PEDs will keep him out. He has the 2nd most receiving yards in postseason of all time besides Jerry Rice. I just think of every big moment from the past few Patriots wins and it's all Edelman making clutch plays. Let's not forget this clutch catch to help Patriots come back from 28-3. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SiUNdkIwzQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 6:40 PM, x0x said: Opinions on Eli's HoF chances. He's in, this isn't even a discussion actually. It's one of those things where maybe most fans will disagree but he'll get voted in no problem. Troy Aikman was on a loaded team with 1 SB MVP and no serious individual accolades with a shortened career, he unfortunately lowered the bar. There's a difference between being asked on the record for an article, and submitting a sealed ballot. Also, those guys don't vote for the HOF. Combine those two things, and of course they're going to say nice things. It's meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 LOL This whole "anonymous vote" is garbage. I want the 27 people who actually voted YES to answer for this travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 14 hours ago, MWil23 said: LOL This whole "anonymous vote" is garbage. I want the 27 people who actually voted YES to answer for this travesty. I did. Because his case deserves a chance to be represented. All I crapping hear from your media is superbowl this, superbowl that, superbowl everything. Elderman is a top superbowl receiver. Fact. The hof is the pinnacle of achievement for a careers work. Julian has had a hell of a career, especially post season, the 'real football season' I dont know why the criteria for a hof career has to be homogeneous, why cant someone be a post season legend if others are only legends before the playoffs? A number of top QBs were pretty meh in the post season, manning, Marino, but they are hofers in their own right. My problem with their not being a conversation for Julian is that the mind of the NFL is stupid if there is no conversation for him. Maybe he legitimately doesnt make it, so be it, I dont care, but just make some damn sense about what is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: I did. Because his case deserves a chance to be represented. All I crapping hear from your media is superbowl this, superbowl that, superbowl everything. Elderman is a top superbowl receiver. Fact. The hof is the pinnacle of achievement for a careers work. Julian has had a hell of a career, especially post season, the 'real football season' I dont know why the criteria for a hof career has to be homogeneous, why cant someone be a post season legend if others are only legends before the playoffs? A number of top QBs were pretty meh in the post season, manning, Marino, but they are hofers in their own right. My problem with their not being a conversation for Julian is that the mind of the NFL is stupid if there is no conversation for him. Maybe he legitimately doesnt make it, so be it, I dont care, but just make some damn sense about what is important. How about consistently dominating your competition? Which he hasn't done. How many times has he played a full 16 game season? Twice both of which are his only 1,000 yard seasons. Ya'll want to put a receiver who has had two 1,000 yard seasons that aren't even that good in the HOF, I can see the Welker argument given he at least was consistently good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, SwoleXmad said: How about consistently dominating your competition? Which he hasn't done. How many times has he played a full 16 game season? Twice both of which are his only 1,000 yard seasons. Ya'll want to put a receiver who has had two 1,000 yard seasons that aren't even that good in the HOF, I can see the Welker argument given he at least was consistently good I am happy for that to be the main rebuttal, most of which I hear is bulk stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 No, and no at the theory of guys who play well in playoffs deserving to be HOF'rs, Robert Horry is as accomplished a playoff performer there is (albeit a different sport), he played a critical part of having 7 rings but wont see the HOF because he was an average player for the majority of his career, pretty much the same with Edelman, average to above average receiver who will never be mistaken for a elite receiver who was the beneficiary of Tom Brady's passes in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emaw1979 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I cant believe this has been a topic. Hes a JAG who's role can be filled with a ton of players in this offense. Hes ridden Tom Brady and BB coat tails to 3 SBs. He has PED history. The fact that he was brought up by some media for the HOF is sickening. I don't hate the guy at all but this is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPanther89 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hell no. If it wasn't Edelman they just would have found another guy to mimic Wes Welker's role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navysaintsfan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 What's really embarrassing is I recommended this forum to a work friend I am always talking to football about and I'm scared he will see this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Danny Amendola literally did the exact same thing last year. Should he be in Canton too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Danny Amendola literally did the exact same thing last year. Should he be in Canton too? Not really. With Edelman the argument is effectively 2nd highest in playoff yards, threw the game winning catch in the 2014 divisional game against the Ravens, caught the game winner against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl, caught the most important pass in Super Bowl 51, was lights out in the AFCCG against the Chiefs and was the best player on the field in Super Bowl 53 where he won MVP. So you can make a vague type of “can’t tell the story of the NFL without him” because he’s been so impactive in crucial games in NFL history. Now would I make that argument that it should get him in? No not at all. But he’s in a rare position where he isn’t a HOF regular season receiver but he was one of the most significant parts of a dynasty and was HOF caliber in the playoffs.. Normally skill players don’t have that type of scenario. Most aren’t part of a dynasty. The ones that are usually have the bulk stats in the regular season. So no he shouldn’t get in. Add another Super Bowl MVP and maybe you can have a discussion. But it’s way too lopsided right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 15 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: I am happy for that to be the main rebuttal, most of which I hear is bulk stats "Bulk stats" The man barely has as many yards as Lynn Swann, the guy who probably shouldn't be in the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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