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Mock Offseason 2: Post Super Bowl, Pre Combine

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Starting cap: $79,424,403

 

Cuts

  • Donald Penn - $5,600,000 savings
    • He's as good as gone if you ask me.
  • Seth Roberts - $4,650,000 savings
    • He's been a favorite of Carr, but the team can do better with the savings.
  • Justin Ellis - $2,500,000 savings
    • Definitely not a must cut, but I thought Hankins was a better player and he's also younger.
  • DeAndre Washington - $720,000 savings
    • Adds nothing of value to the team.

Re-sign

  • Jared Cook - 2 years, $14,000,000
    • Team's best receiver from a year ago.
  • Johnathan Hankins - 2 years, $8,000,000
    • Team's best nose tackle and arguably most consistent interior defensive lineman from a year ago.
  • Doug Martin - 2 years, $6,000,000
    • Still runs young. He's a good back with tread left.
  • Jon Feliciano - 2 years, $5,000,000
    • Played well when called upon. Quality depth.

 

RFA

  • Jalen Richard - 2 years, $6,000,000 - 2nd round
    • A reliable 3rd down target for Carr who can make a play here and there.
  • Erik Harris - 2 years, $5,000,000 - 2nd round
    • Arguably the team's best safety from last year. Might be wise to lock him up for even longer than this deal.
  • Daryl Worley - 1 year, $720,000 - 3rd round
    • Not someone I want starting but he's good for the price.
  • Marcell Ateman - 2 years, $1,140,000 - 7th round
    • Not a lock to make the team, but he played admirably for an undrafted free agent.
  • Jason Cabinda - 2 years, $1,140,000 - 7th round
    • Cabinda was a better linebacker than Ateman was a receiver.

 

Free agents

  • Preston Smith - 4 years, $48,000,000
    • He can play every position Guenther asks from his ends. Immediately steps in as the team's best pass rusher.
  • Tyrell Williams - 4 years, $32,000,000
    • All around receiver who can stretch the field, play slot, and catch underneath.
  • Kareem Jackson - 2 years, $15,000,000
    • Not too old veteran who is coming off a very good season playing a similar role Guenther asks his corners to play.
  • DeVante Parker - 1 year, $6,000,000
    • Not a lock to make the team, but the upside is tremendous.
  • Allen Bailey - 1 year, $4,000,000
    • Can play at end and inside. High quality depth.
  • Ereck Flowers - 1 year, $705,000
    • Provides veteran competition and depth at both tackle spots.

 

Ending cap: $29,689,403

 

Draft

Round 1:

  1. Arizona Cardinals select Nick Bosa, Edge, Ohio State

  2. San Francisco 49ers select Josh Allen, Edge, Kentucky

  3. New York Jets select Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama

  4. Oakland Raiders select Rashan Gary, Edge, Michigan

    • I've written about him enough in the draft thread. He'll primarily play from the 5 out and bump inside on 3rd and longs with Key, Hurst, and Smith on the field.

  5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama

  6. New York Giants select Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

  7. Jacksonville Jaguars select Jeffery Simmons, DL, Mississippi State

  8. Detroit Lions select Montez Sweat, DL, Mississippi State

  9. Buffalo Bills select Ed Oliver, DT, Houston

  10. Denver Broncos select Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State

  11. Cincinnati Bengals select Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida

  12. Green Bay Packers select Clelin Ferrell, Edge, Clemson

  13. Miami Dolphins select Drew Lock, QB, Missouri

  14. Atlanta Falcons select Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson

  15. Washington Redskins select Daniel Jones, QB, Duke

  16. Carolina Panthers select Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss

  17. Cleveland Browns select Greedy Williams, CB, LSU

  18. Minnesota Vikings select Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State

  19. Tennessee Titans select Jachai Polite, Edge, Florida

  20. Pittsburgh Steelers select Devin White, LB, LSU

  21. Seattle Seahawks select T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa

  22. Baltimore Ravens select D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss

  23. Houston Texans select Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama

  24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago) select Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State

    • He's quickly becoming a draft crush for me. Toward the end of last season the Raiders played a heavy amount of 3-safety looks with Gilchrist playing a lot in the box. Abram is cut from a similar cloth as Derwin James and can do a lot of similar things as him if Guenther is willing to get creative. Abram also provides assurance for when Joseph likely departs after next season. Abram can also play weakside backer.

  25. Philadelphia Eagles select DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia

  26. Indianapolis Colts select A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss

  27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas) select Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina

    • Samuel is a well oiled offensive weapon who can do multiple things on offense and special teams. His versatility is just an addition to his refined receiving skills. He reminds me a lot of Jarvis Landry.

  28. Los Angeles Chargers select Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma

  29. New England Patriots select Brian Burns, Edge, Florida State

  30. Los Angeles Rams select Jaylen Ferguson, Edge, Louisiana Tech

  31. Kansas City Chiefs select Devin Bush, LB, Michigan

  32. Green Bay Packers (from New Orleans) select Noah Fant, TE, Iowa

Round 2:

35. Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis

  • The Raiders need to generate more big plays on offense and Henderson is a big play waiting to happen.

Round 3:

66. Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State

  • The team will have to feel comfortable with the misdemeanor arrests while at Tennessee, but Williams is within the ballpark of just about any receiver in this class when it comes to talent.

Round 4:

100. Michael Jackson, CB, Miami

  • Jackson looks the part more than plays the part. For a 4th rounder, I think he fits the bill of a moldable block of clay.

 

Preliminary Roster

Offense:

  • QB: Derek Carr, A.J. McCarron
  • RB: Derrell Henderson, Doug Martin, Jalen Richard
  • WR: Tyrell Williams, Jordy Nelson, Deebo Samuel,  DeVante Parker, Preston Williams, Marcell Ateman
  • TE: Jared Cook, Lee Smith, Derek Carrier
  • T: Kolton Miller, Brandon Parker, Ereck Flowers
  • G: Kelechi Oseleme, Gabe Jackson, Jon Feliciano
  • C: Rodney Hudson

Defense:

  • DE: Preston Smith, Rashan Gary, Allen Bailey, Arden Key
  • DT: P.J. Hall, Maurice Hurst, Johnathan Hankins, Eddie Vanderdoes
  • LB: Tahir Whitehead, Nicholas Morrow, Marquel Lee, Jason Cabinda, Kyle Wilber
  • CB: Gareon Conley, Kareem Jackson, Daryl Worley, Nick Nelson, Michael Jackson
  • S: Karl Joseph, Johnathan Abram, Erik Harris
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Love the idea of Smith - Hankins - Hurst - Gary line with Hall and Key rotating in. 

Extra love getting Carr a big WR, and resigning Cook. 

But...

IMO if Baker is there at 24 you HAVE to take him plus i am Not a Kareem Jackson fan, so would rather see us spend that 7.5 and the 6 from Parker and use it to sign Landon Collins.

And draft Bush at 27 because that is the weakest LB corps in the NFL by a country mile. 

And assuming he doesn't get picked at 33 or 34 you gotta take Harry at 35.

Also... what happened to Jordy in your offseason?

Also... Ateman wasn't undrafted.

I like it

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Great effort man! Really detailed with that full first rounder!

Marcell and Cabinda are only ERFA guys, the RFA guys should get their 2019 tenders and that's it IMO. Maybe Richard could worth an extension, but I think his agent would recommend him to play on the tender and ask for a bigger deal or head for FA after another year.

Where is Jordy Nelson? Can't see him in the "cut" department, can't see him in the roster neither. Since he already got some of his '19 salary in advance, I expect him to be on roster come September.

Like the FA group, however Flowers makes no real sense to me. If Parker can't make the jump in this scenario, we still won't have a solid option behind him, since Flowers is really bad. Would rather keep a Sharpe around if Flowers is the only guy we could bring in...

Smith and Gary would be a pretty strong DE duo in the base, but I can't really see the danger as a pass rush combo in them. Smith is not a speed rusher and Gary also projects more as a speed to power guy, then a speed guy. We need speed at DE IMO, but could work this way too I guess.

The Abraham, Samuel and Henderson picks are not too strong IMO, all seems like a reach to me right now, but I have to admit I don't know a lot about Henderson and I know close to nothing about Abraham. If you would have put Adderley and Harmon/Harry I would probably say nice job, so it is more prospect knowledge issue on my part. 5'9 200 RB in the 2nd is just too rich for me. Use Richard more as a runner, since he is already here with those measures and speed.

LB position is untouched which is a concern to me with this scenario. Overall our front 7 still looks weak to me.

 

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6 hours ago, OG_C2X said:

Love the idea of Smith - Hankins - Hurst - Gary line with Hall and Key rotating in. 

Extra love getting Carr a big WR, and resigning Cook. 

But...

IMO if Baker is there at 24 you HAVE to take him plus i am Not a Kareem Jackson fan, so would rather see us spend that 7.5 and the 6 from Parker and use it to sign Landon Collins.

And draft Bush at 27 because that is the weakest LB corps in the NFL by a country mile. 

And assuming he doesn't get picked at 33 or 34 you gotta take Harry at 35.

Also... what happened to Jordy in your offseason?

Also... Ateman wasn't undrafted.

I like it

I pretty much agree about Baker--in fact, I'm good with picking him at 4 that's so much I like him. But I wanted to try to mix things up here. Also, I don't think the league, as a whole, likes Baker as much as I do. Kareem Jackson played well as a zone corner last year for Houston. Ultimately, I would also like to use some early draft capital on a corner even if the team signs a starting caliber veteran like Jackson.

The logic behind the Abrams pick is that he addresses both a present need and a future need at linebacker and safety, respectively. To me, there's not a whole lot separating Abrams and Derwin James as prospects, and for all intents and purposes, James played linebacker for the Chargers last year.

I think Harry would be a strong candidate to get drafted by the Cardinals at the top of round 2. Even if he were on the board, I probably would take Henderson. A lack of an explosive element hamstrung the Raiders offense last year. Henderson might be the most explosive offensive player in this year's draft.

I honestly forgot about Jordy, he's in there.

1 hour ago, Rolni said:

Great effort man! Really detailed with that full first rounder!

Marcell and Cabinda are only ERFA guys, the RFA guys should get their 2019 tenders and that's it IMO. Maybe Richard could worth an extension, but I think his agent would recommend him to play on the tender and ask for a bigger deal or head for FA after another year.

Where is Jordy Nelson? Can't see him in the "cut" department, can't see him in the roster neither. Since he already got some of his '19 salary in advance, I expect him to be on roster come September.

Like the FA group, however Flowers makes no real sense to me. If Parker can't make the jump in this scenario, we still won't have a solid option behind him, since Flowers is really bad. Would rather keep a Sharpe around if Flowers is the only guy we could bring in...

Smith and Gary would be a pretty strong DE duo in the base, but I can't really see the danger as a pass rush combo in them. Smith is not a speed rusher and Gary also projects more as a speed to power guy, then a speed guy. We need speed at DE IMO, but could work this way too I guess.

The Abraham, Samuel and Henderson picks are not too strong IMO, all seems like a reach to me right now, but I have to admit I don't know a lot about Henderson and I know close to nothing about Abraham. If you would have put Adderley and Harmon/Harry I would probably say nice job, so it is more prospect knowledge issue on my part. 5'9 200 RB in the 2nd is just too rich for me. Use Richard more as a runner, since he is already here with those measures and speed.

LB position is untouched which is a concern to me with this scenario. Overall our front 7 still looks weak to me.

 

I'd prefer Flowers over Sharpe from what I've seen of Sharpe and both would be had at their respective minimums. I haven't observed one snap of Flowers this year, but he apparently played okay on the left side for Jacksonville according to his PFF grade.

I disagree that between Smith and Gary the Raiders wouldn't at least have an above average pass rushing duo. Also, I don't think a pure speed guy is necessary to produce a good pass rush. Gary has an underrated speed element that shows up when he lines up wide. And like I wrote, he could bump inside on long 3rd downs with Key rushing outside him.

I would watch both Abram and Henderson if I were you. Abram, to me, is nearly a carbon copy of Derwin James. Toward the end of last season, Guenther played a lot of 3 safeties with Gilchrist in the box. I think Abram can excel playing a similar role and weakside linebacker if Guenther really wants to get creative. Comparing him to Adderley, I think Abrams is better for what the Raiders can use him for. Henderson is the most explosive player I've watched this draft season so far. He reminds me of Chris Johnson with better contact balance (and probably less top-end speed).

Samuel is a guy I've liked since I started watching players this offseason. To me, he's a faster version of Jarvis Landry and I could see him becoming an instant favorite of Carr before long. I have him ahead of both Harry and Harmon. Harmon I'm not a fan of before round 3--and even then I like guys like Preston Williams and Anthony Johnson over him.

 

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Huge fan of Henderson.  His vision is stellar.  I would take him over just about every other RB in this draft.  My only concern is the level of competition he played against.

Only other comment is that I'm not a fan of Gary at 4.  I really hope we trade our 4th overall pick for a truckload of picks and then draft BPA all 3 days.  I just want an influx of young talent and potential.  I would be happy if we traded back to around 13 and picked up Devin White and 2-3 more picks while the Dolphins guarenteed their chances of getting the QB they want.

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2 hours ago, Jerry said:

Huge fan of Henderson.  His vision is stellar.  I would take him over just about every other RB in this draft.  My only concern is the level of competition he played against.

Only other comment is that I'm not a fan of Gary at 4.  I really hope we trade our 4th overall pick for a truckload of picks and then draft BPA all 3 days.  I just want an influx of young talent and potential.  I would be happy if we traded back to around 13 and picked up Devin White and 2-3 more picks while the Dolphins guarenteed their chances of getting the QB they want.

I'm in the same boat. If Bosa and Allen are off the board, which they should be, please trade down.  There are at least 6 pass rushers that we could pick up later in the first round and I don't think any of them deserve to go at #4.

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On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 11:53 PM, Rich7sena said:

RFA

  • Jalen Richard - 2 years, $6,000,000 - 2nd round
    • A reliable 3rd down target for Carr who can make a play here and there.
  • Erik Harris - 2 years, $5,000,000 - 2nd round
    • Arguably the team's best safety from last year. Might be wise to lock him up for even longer than this deal.
  • Daryl Worley - 1 year, $720,000 - 3rd round
    • Not someone I want starting but he's good for the price.
  • Marcell Ateman - 2 years, $1,140,000 - 7th round
    • Not a lock to make the team, but he played admirably for an undrafted free agent.
  • Jason Cabinda - 2 years, $1,140,000 - 7th round
    • Cabinda was a better linebacker than Ateman was a receiver.

 

Don't want to be mean, but I stopped reading after this. RFA contracts are all 1 year deals and typically 2 million is the highest you'll ever see. 1 year, 1.5 mill would be more accurate and Worley's deal is the most realistic. As for Ateman, we signed him to a 4 year deal last year, not sure why he is a FA at all. If anything he is ERFA, as is Cabinda.

Last years numbers:

Richard 1yr -540

Harris 1yr - 630

Worley 1yr - 630

Ateman - conflicting reports. One site says we signed him to a 4yr 2.5 deal and another says 1yr - 480

Cabinda 1yr - 480

 

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3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

If Devin white falls that far, I would hope we explore trading up for him.

yessir, me too absolutely

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pretty solid ideas, only real problem id have with this is again well have diddley at lb. imo LBer must be addressed id say terrill hanks/coney/pratt in the 3rd. then Isabella and doss later if possible. but that's it great mock bro. the only other change I might think about is adderly for abram.

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i like Bush at 27, Deebo should drop to 35. Henderson and Williams I think a round too early. I love these players, Nice job

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9 hours ago, true2form said:

Don't want to be mean, but I stopped reading after this. RFA contracts are all 1 year deals and typically 2 million is the highest you'll ever see. 1 year, 1.5 mill would be more accurate and Worley's deal is the most realistic. As for Ateman, we signed him to a 4 year deal last year, not sure why he is a FA at all. If anything he is ERFA, as is Cabinda.

Last years numbers:

Richard 1yr -540

Harris 1yr - 630

Worley 1yr - 630

Ateman - conflicting reports. One site says we signed him to a 4yr 2.5 deal and another says 1yr - 480

Cabinda 1yr - 480

 

Right about the 1 year deals. But 1st round tender on RFA was a little over $4mil last year I believe. Around $3m for 2nd round. So can expect a slight increase this year most likely.

And Ateman should be an ERFA along with Cabinda. His 4 year deal was from being drafted. But voided when he was cut and sent to the PS. 1 year deal when he was signed to the active roster.

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Replace mike davis with doug martin and ill be happy.

Also hard pass on flowers hes terrible.

Also rather have others over preston smith. He may not be our best end rusher if he repeats last years performance

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On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 10:28 PM, StocktonSav said:

Right about the 1 year deals. But 1st round tender on RFA was a little over $4mil last year I believe. Around $3m for 2nd round. So can expect a slight increase this year most likely.

And Ateman should be an ERFA along with Cabinda. His 4 year deal was from being drafted. But voided when he was cut and sent to the PS. 1 year deal when he was signed to the active roster.

I can't see putting a 2nd round tender on any of these guys, definitely not a 1st.

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2 minutes ago, true2form said:

I can't see putting a 2nd round tender on any of these guys, definitely not a 1st.

Yea I mostly agree. I was just saying the tender amounts have steadily increased. I would say original round tenders on all except Richard. Richard proved valuable enough as a complementary back to earn a 2nd round tender I think. As an UDFA, if we put an original round tender we would get nothing back if another team poached him. Too risky imo

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