x0x Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Pretty interesting and I'd like to see people rank the 3 in terms of their legacies. Eli and Rivers are a year older than Big Ben at 37 while Ben is 36. Eli Manning 2 Super Bowl MVPs 4 Pro Bowls 3 seasons Top 5 TDs 3 seasons Top 5 Yards 360-239 TD/INT 116-114 reg season record Ben Roethlisberger Member of 2 Super Bowl Champions 1 All-Pro 6 Pro Bowls 2 league leads in Yards, additional Top 5 2 seasons Top 5 TDs 363-190 TD/INT 144-69-1 reg season record Philip Rivers 2 All-Pros 8 Pro Bowls 1 league lead in Yards, additional 5 Top 5 1 league lead in TDs, additional 4 Top 5 373-178 TD/INT 118-90 reg season record I think the additional individual performance and wins will vault Roethlisberger to the top. If Rivers doesn't win a title he's unfortunately 3rd. In terms of who gets in 1st I think Eli Manning by virtue of his retirement and have a feeling about the class. Despite his play Roethlisberger has gotten better in later years and now seems to be scheduling for 3-4 more while I think Eli will be done within 2 seasons. That'll give him 2 years up plus I think Rodgers and Brady will block Roethlisberger for a year or two. The NY media will push for Eli to get in earlier than later and outside Drew Brees he'll probably not have any QB outside of him so he'll sneak in. Consequently I think Rivers will take a while. After the probable backlog in front of him he'll probably have a few longer waits get voted in before him. Just think it'll be 6-7th ballot for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Ben is the only one I'm sure will get in 1st ballot so unless there's a significant gap between when they all retire it will likely be Ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I wouldn’t vote for any of them, but I’m in the minority in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x0x Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Malik said: Ben is the only one I'm sure will get in 1st ballot so unless there's a significant gap between when they all retire it will likely be Ben Lot of good players. I think Brady and Rodgers would block out any other QBs for their years of enshrinement (unless they retire same time). Just the way the Hall works with how they dealt with the backlog of receivers Carter-Reed-Brown-Harrison then Owens and Moss in 2018 after a lot thought Owens was snubbed in 2017. The worst case scenario for Roethlisberger is if he retires same year as Brady and then Rodgers goes after him. Not that 3rd ballot is bad but that alone could create a backlog at other positions. Fran Tarkenton had to wait a bunch of years I think 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Such blatant disrespect to JP Losman to not even include him as an option. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 How I think it will probably go in order: Ben-Eli-Rivers.....in that order. How I think it should go: Ben and that's it. MAYBE Rivers years later. Eli should not get in, but will. Ben should. Rivers, I'm on the fence about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Forge said: Such blatant disrespect to JP Losman to not even include him as an option. Losman retired in 2011, so I'm guessing OP made the logical assumption that he should already have been inducted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Ben might get in 2nd or 3rd.. Those scandals, Bike and bad teammate will push him down imo.. Dickerson spoke on how sensitive voters are regarding drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Crazy to think if none had Rings, Rivers would clearly get in before the other two, no questions asked. Goes to show how important basically 2 games in a career is to some people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Forge said: Such blatant disrespect to JP Losman to not even include him as an option. Matt Schaub is also pretty miffed for not getting mentioned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 hours ago, JustAnotherFan said: How I think it will probably go in order: Ben-Eli-Rivers.....in that order. How I think it should go: Ben and that's it. MAYBE Rivers years later. Eli should not get in, but will. Ben should. Rivers, I'm on the fence about. Eli will because of his 2 rings. He wouldn't be the first SB winning QB to get in that really shouldn't have (Namath is one that comes to mind immediately). Rivers has to really come on in these last years of his career to have a shot IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 EM ballot 1 2 BR not ballot 1 3 PR will wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I doubt any go first ballot. They have so many logjams at other positions and none of these guys are good enough to jump the line the way their peers will. Ben is the closest and I think he’s more of a second or third ballot guy. Eli will get in next but will likely wait awhile because his career has several negatives that will be a big deal (he led the league in INT 3 times, will likely retire with a losing record, and was largely mediocre his whole career) Rivers isnt getting in. Text book Hall of Very Good. He needs a ring or MVP to have a chance imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Eli Manning by nature of being the first to retire. I don't think Philip Rivers gets in without a Super Bowl. As good as he is, he's never been considered Elite in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Eli. He will retire first because he sucks. But more importantly he will always remembered for his 4Q comebacks in 07/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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