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Who gets in Hall of Fame 1st of 2004 QB Class?

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  1. 1. Who gets in 1st?

    • Eli Manning
      5
    • Ben Roethlisberger
      18
    • Philip Rivers
      3


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Rivers has not done enough to elevate himself, YET.

  • Stat accumulation by itself is meaningless without post season success or MVP level seasons.
  • No one is saying he is a bum and he already has the Hall of Very Good locked up.

 

He just needs a few more accomplishments to get to that next level.

  • Get a few more 12+ win seasons (he only has 3 so far)
  • Play at an MVP level once or twice (he's been close before but on mediocre teams)
  • Win 5 playoff games over the next 4 years to get to 10 wins
  • Play well in a Super Bowl (winning it would be a huge plus)

Do those along with more stats and he probably gets in.

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Meh. I think Rivers is a Hall of Famer. Probably 5th ballot or so though.

 

Big Ben for sure, even though I think Phil is better, but Ben has the combo of great stats, great play, and SBs. Rivers doesn't have one of those.

 

Eli will get in, too. Ahead of Rivers. He'll retire first. He has multiple SBs. He's generally one of the most overrated QBs in the game (or was until 2017), but an underrated aspect of his game is the toughness. He was Iron Man for a while, taking hit after hit and getting back up, starting like a gazillion games in a row. He was decent enough for most of his career, but that's not a HOF qualifier. When he gets into the Hall, it'll be because of the combo of SB wins, Toughness, and Leadership. 

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3 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Rivers has not done enough to elevate himself, YET.

  • Stat accumulation by itself is meaningless without post season success or MVP level seasons.
  • No one is saying he is a bum and he already has the Hall of Very Good locked up.

 

He just needs a few more accomplishments to get to that next level.

  • Get a few more 12+ win seasons (he only has 3 so far)
  • Play at an MVP level once or twice (he's been close before but on mediocre teams)
  • Win 5 playoff games over the next 4 years to get to 10 wins
  • Play well in a Super Bowl (winning it would be a huge plus)

Do those along with more stats and he probably gets in.

+1 to all of this. I can see the Chargers making a deep run next year, potentially to the crown of Super Bowl Champions.

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17 hours ago, Bearerofnews said:

That sure is alot of projecting to give Stafford those kind of career stats. 

Who doesn't respect probowls? If that was the case, then why is there no qb in NFL history who has retired that has been to atleast 8 probowls not in the HOF? Why is probowl selections brought up at every HOF voting committee and inductions? Why is there probowl selction shows. Where did this idea that the probowl is meaningless come from? 39 players in NFL history have been to 10 probowls and all are in the HOF or will be (Brady, Peyton, Brees, Fitzgerald and Joe Thomas). 

The problem with probowls is players usually bow out of these after their first couple of opportunities.  Rodgers gets voted in a lot but hasn't played in one of these exhibitions in years because of "injuries."  Plus, it is often just a popularity contest.  Winning an MVP or being an All-Pro is more prestigious than getting into a Pro Bowl.  Rivers will need to win an MVP or All-Pro or a ring before he will be considered for Canton.

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10 minutes ago, Pugger said:

The problem with probowls is players usually bow out of these after their first couple of opportunities.  Rodgers gets voted in a lot but hasn't played in one of these exhibitions in years because of "injuries."  Plus, it is often just a popularity contest.  Winning an MVP or being an All-Pro is more prestigious than getting into a Pro Bowl.  Rivers will need to win an MVP or All-Pro or a ring before he will be considered for Canton.

Id agree with that if it is 1 or 2 probowls. Making 8 probowls is extremely prestigious. Only 13 qbs in the history of the game have that many. Rivers based on his play can continue to add to that. 

 

If this was 1 to 3 probowls, id get the arguement. But it's not. 

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10 hours ago, HoboRocket said:

Rooting for the Brees-y in Big Easy?

It’s probably our last chance for a while:

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