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Better Player: Steve Young or Peyton Manning


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2 hours ago, Activated10 said:

Hes also better than Brady because he didn't have those great defenses protecting Brady 

he isn't. Brady is the only QB in history to carry historically bad defenses to the Super Bowl. And he did it twice. Although I give Peyton credit for the 2006 team as their defense was 25th DVOA. Tom took the 30th DVOA defense in 2011 and the 31st DVOA defense in 2017 to the SB. Unprecedented.

 

Tom is 6-1 in Super Bowls when Belichick gifted him at least an average defense. And the defenses in 14,16 and 18 were just average (12,16,16) but it was enough.

Peyton won 1 SB with a bad defense, lost 2 with average defenses. 

 

Hell, he would have only won 1 SB if not for the #1 DVOA Denver defense carrying him to his 2nd ring.

 

The last elite defense Brady had was 2006 (7th). 

 

That's why Brady is the greatest player in the history of the NFL. Nobody else could have won all these Super Bowls with average defenses and reach Super Bowls with terrible defenses.

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5 hours ago, SBLIII said:

he isn't. Brady is the only QB in history to carry historically bad defenses to the Super Bowl. And he did it twice. Although I give Peyton credit for the 2006 team as their defense was 25th DVOA. Tom took the 30th DVOA defense in 2011 and the 31st DVOA defense in 2017 to the SB. Unprecedented.

 

Tom is 6-1 in Super Bowls when Belichick gifted him at least an average defense. And the defenses in 14,16 and 18 were just average (12,16,16) but it was enough.

Peyton won 1 SB with a bad defense, lost 2 with average defenses. 

 

Hell, he would have only won 1 SB if not for the #1 DVOA Denver defense carrying him to his 2nd ring.

 

The last elite defense Brady had was 2006 (7th). 

 

That's why Brady is the greatest player in the history of the NFL. Nobody else could have won all these Super Bowls with average defenses and reach Super Bowls with terrible defenses.

Those may have been average defense but when it comes to to the playoffs, those defenses become elite. Brady lucky to have Belichick to be his coach 

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1 minute ago, Activated10 said:

Those may have been average defense but when it comes to to the playoffs, those defenses become elite. Brady lucky to have Belichick to be his coach 

you mean like that elite defense that gave up 41 to backup Foles?

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