mdonnelly21 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Who is the better player to make it simple let's call it the Peak of the Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 This isn't even a debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 If any QB ever is at their absolute best I’ll go with Young. Peyton has the higher ranking/legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Young has arguably the greatest peak ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Peyton Manning is the 2nd best QB of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Is this a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Danger said: Peyton Manning is the 2nd best QB of all time. and would have 4+ titles if he didn't run into Belichick and Ty Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, SBLIII said: and would have 4+ titles if he didn't run into Belichick and Ty Law. Hes also better than Brady because he didn't have those great defenses protecting Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SBLIII said: and would have 4+ titles if he didn't run into Belichick and Ty Law. Maybe. I have a hard time believing the 04 team gets past Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Activated10 said: Hes also better than Brady because he didn't have those great defenses protecting Brady he isn't. Brady is the only QB in history to carry historically bad defenses to the Super Bowl. And he did it twice. Although I give Peyton credit for the 2006 team as their defense was 25th DVOA. Tom took the 30th DVOA defense in 2011 and the 31st DVOA defense in 2017 to the SB. Unprecedented. Tom is 6-1 in Super Bowls when Belichick gifted him at least an average defense. And the defenses in 14,16 and 18 were just average (12,16,16) but it was enough. Peyton won 1 SB with a bad defense, lost 2 with average defenses. Hell, he would have only won 1 SB if not for the #1 DVOA Denver defense carrying him to his 2nd ring. The last elite defense Brady had was 2006 (7th). That's why Brady is the greatest player in the history of the NFL. Nobody else could have won all these Super Bowls with average defenses and reach Super Bowls with terrible defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Both solid QB's. Among the top 10 QB's ever but this is Peyton Manninng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Joffrey Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Peyton, but I have Young in the top 6-7 all time QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 5 hours ago, SBLIII said: he isn't. Brady is the only QB in history to carry historically bad defenses to the Super Bowl. And he did it twice. Although I give Peyton credit for the 2006 team as their defense was 25th DVOA. Tom took the 30th DVOA defense in 2011 and the 31st DVOA defense in 2017 to the SB. Unprecedented. Tom is 6-1 in Super Bowls when Belichick gifted him at least an average defense. And the defenses in 14,16 and 18 were just average (12,16,16) but it was enough. Peyton won 1 SB with a bad defense, lost 2 with average defenses. Hell, he would have only won 1 SB if not for the #1 DVOA Denver defense carrying him to his 2nd ring. The last elite defense Brady had was 2006 (7th). That's why Brady is the greatest player in the history of the NFL. Nobody else could have won all these Super Bowls with average defenses and reach Super Bowls with terrible defenses. Those may have been average defense but when it comes to to the playoffs, those defenses become elite. Brady lucky to have Belichick to be his coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Activated10 said: Those may have been average defense but when it comes to to the playoffs, those defenses become elite. Brady lucky to have Belichick to be his coach you mean like that elite defense that gave up 41 to backup Foles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Activated10 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, SBLIII said: you mean like that elite defense that gave up 41 to backup Foles? Foles also killed the best defense in the Vikings that year. Foles was killing any team in his way, no defense was stopping Eagles loll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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