NJerseypaint Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 hours ago, childofpudding said: You are right, 188 yards of rushing in the KC game, with the D holding KC to 126 yards of total offense. Meanwhile, Manning threw 3 INTs. Good thing Manning didnt throw later in the game. He may have thrown 4 or 5 INTs instead. Yep, that's a carry. Five TOs in the SB is 5 TOs. Plus 247 yards of rushing on offense. Compared to 1 TD and 1 INT? Yep, that's a carry. I don't know what to tell you. I try applying context to numbers and you keep going back to the numbers. If that's all that matter to you, then I got nothing to argue. 6 hours ago, childofpudding said: This is incorrect, by the way. As I stated earlier, Manning's playoff passer rating in 2006 was 5% above what his opponents allowed that year. That is the third worst in the last 20 years, ahead only of himself in 2015 and Brady this year. The highest were Rodgers and Brees - during their SB-winning runs, they both had passer ratings that were 45% above what their opponents allowed. Both the median and average for SB winning QBs were 23% above opponents' passer rating allowed. I gotta ask, are you compiling these stats yourself or are they readied somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 9:17 PM, NJerseypaint said: In the 2006 playoffs he faced 3 top 5 defenses. His worst game was away against the league's #1 def (Ravens), but he threw all over the Pats and was solid against the Bears. To say he was carried is silly. Usually I don't describe dropping 38 points, including 5 touchdowns in the second half throwing all over the opposition that is a top 3 defense, as "being carried." That doesn't quite seem right to me, but hey, I'm just being objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Player for player, Young. He ran the West coast offense as efficiently as possible and added an extra dimension being able to be just as effective running. Teams literally had to pick their poison, he didn't run all the time, but when he did, it was deadly. Manning was the closest thing to a machine playing QB as you will ever see, he literally had a CPU as a brain while dissecting defensive coverages even when trying to disguise. I just prefer Young because he was multidimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich homie Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Steve Young may have been a more physically gifted player at the absolute peak of his career, but Peyton Manning is one of a kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Come on. A better one would be Young vs Rodgers. Similiar players and more comparable. Peyton is a QB god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoeless Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Peyton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Bearerofnews said: Come on. A better one would be Young vs Rodgers. Similiar players and more comparable. Peyton is a QB god. yeah I don't think it's debatable. Peyton is firmly a top 3 QB of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 11:01 PM, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: Usually I don't describe dropping 38 points, including 5 touchdowns in the second half throwing all over the opposition that is a top 3 defense, as "being carried." That doesn't quite seem right to me, but hey, I'm just being objective. No, youre not being objective. Youre citing one good half out of eight halves that he played in those playoffs. If you look at the entire playoff run, he was most certainly carried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, childofpudding said: No, youre not being objective. Youre citing one good half out of eight halves that he played in those playoffs. If you look at the entire playoff run, he was most certainly carried. You're citing 7 plays as evidence that he played badly. If anything, that's worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 18 hours ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: You're citing 7 plays as evidence that he played badly. If anything, that's worse. No I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, childofpudding said: No I'm not. He threw 7 interceptions. That's your entire argument basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: He threw 7 interceptions. That's your entire argument basically No it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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