DirtyDez Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Nick_gb said: There's a huge difference with this predicament and the Murray to Arizona one. When this was made, Cleveland held the #1 overall pick and Scot Mccloughan was on the record as really high on Baker Mayfield and hired as Draft Advisor for the Cleveland Browns. Baker Mayfield #1 overall was always an obstacle for the Jets if they were actually high on him and they were obviously targeting a QB as they went Sam Darnold at #3 overall. With the Murray and Arizona thing? Arizona owns the #1 overall pick. No one can stop them from getting him if they wanted. This isn't like having the #3 pick and a need at a position that the #1 pick also has a need for. Two entirely different situations. This guy is reporting that Kingsbury is walking around the combine telling people they’re drafting Murray. If he is, which I doubt based on everything he’s said, then it’s clearly a smokescreen and this dude is running with it being a “Done deal”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 17 hours ago, DirtyDez said: This guy is reporting that Kingsbury is walking around the combine telling people they’re drafting Murray. If he is, which I doubt based on everything he’s said, then it’s clearly a smokescreen and this dude is running with it being a “Done deal”. It is strange, but Murray is a MUCH better fit for Kingsbury's O. He has no use for statues as QBs. None. Rosen is pretty slow-footed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forge Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: If all this is some sort of bizarre smoke screen, it's one of the greatest ever lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Forge said: If all this is some sort of bizarre smoke screen, it's one of the greatest ever lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: No! Not fun! This is miserable for the team picking #2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I'm reminded of the Belichick quote on Charlie Casserly. It was something like "Who's been wrong more than Charlie Casserly since leaving [Washington]? His percentage is like a meteorologist." It's worth considering that he's employed by NFLN as an analyst, and not a journalist- breaking news is literally not his job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Forge said: No! Not fun! This is miserable for the team picking #2! You will get your Bosa when the Cards keep Rosen and trade down for more picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: You will get your Bosa when the Cards keep Rosen and trade down for more picks. This is acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I honestly wonder if there aren't NFL teams who actively see Casserly as a reliable asset for disinformation campaigns. Since they know he's going to go on tv and just repeat whatever they tell him, likely uncritically. It's always been the case that teams lie, they're just better at it than they used to be. Like instead of the GM standing at the podium and straight up telling lies, they'll just have someone contact a media person to become an "anonymous source" to tell lies, since the expectation is that the anonymity would mean that the person has no reason to lie since telling the truth won't come back to bite them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I honestly wonder if there aren't NFL teams who actively see Casserly as a reliable asset for disinformation campaigns. Since they know he's going to go on tv and just repeat whatever they tell him, likely uncritically. It's always been the case that teams lie, they're just better at it than they used to be. Like instead of the GM standing at the podium and straight up telling lies, they'll just have someone contact a media person to become an "anonymous source" to tell lies, since the expectation is that the anonymity would mean that the person has no reason to lie since telling the truth won't come back to bite them. Oh definitely. That's how I would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Forge said: Oh definitely. That's how I would do it. I'd hire Matt Millen as my #2. Then, I'd have Millen leak to the media whatever he wanted to do. Of course, I'd do the opposite of whatever the media reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 hours ago, jrry32 said: I'd hire Matt Millen as my #2. Then, I'd have Millen leak to the media whatever he wanted to do. Of course, I'd do the opposite of whatever the media reported. Nobody would believe Millen would do anything other than take DK Metcalf though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Forge said: If all this is some sort of bizarre smoke screen, it's one of the greatest ever lol. But a smokescreen for what? They have #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: But a smokescreen for what? They have #1. That's what I don't understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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