Shanedorf Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I mean, rather than analyze pictures to figure out someone's height, we could perhaps use some sort of measuring device that is calibrated in inches. If Murray somehow cheated the person at the combine who was measuring his height, are all the other heights suspect? Like the whole reason we have the combine is so we can have accurate medical and height/weight/speed numbers. People's height varies from day to day and by time of day and 1/2 inch is a commonly accepted variation for a 6 ft human. It also varies by the person operating the measuring device and that varies from year to year at the combine. How hard does the measurer press the device into the players cranium ? Does he gently rest it there or forcibly push it down ? Is the player relaxed or is he standing straight and stretching his neck skyward ? You're asking for absolute certainty where none exists. These heights should be given as +/- the error of the method used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper15 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: I figured some of the things Casserly reported was exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Hopper15 said: I figured some of the things Casserly reported was exaggerated. Exaggerated or flat out fabricated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: Charlie Casserly looking like Grandpa Simpson shouting at clouds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, CaliforniaKid7 said: Exaggerated or flat out fabricated? I have another theory, but it falls outside of site rules... so I'll just let people connect their own dots for themselves. (And no, this isn't a solicitation to start guessing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper15 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, CaliforniaKid7 said: Exaggerated or flat out fabricated? Exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 5:46 AM, goldfishwars said: Pat Shurmur just loves him some mediocre QB's, doesn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 10:19 PM, KingOfTheDot said: Giving up on Rosen after 1 year is stupid IMO. Wilks did him no favors. However Murray is the better fit for Kingsbury so it makes sense. I'm curious as to why people say this. No disputing that Murray is more athletic than Rosen is, but when people say "Murray fits Kingsbury's scheme better than Rosen does," the first thing that pops into my mind is that these people really don't know what Kingsbury's version of the Air Raid Offense actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextsuperstar1 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: I don’t put a ton of stuck in combine rumors, but someone who has known a prospect’s father for 30 years, might not be the most objective source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGiantsman10 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, The LBC said: Pat Shurmur just loves him some mediocre QB's, doesn't he? How deep can the hole go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, The LBC said: I'm curious as to why people say this. No disputing that Murray is more athletic than Rosen is, but when people say "Murray fits Kingsbury's scheme better than Rosen does," the first thing that pops into my mind is that these people really don't know what Kingsbury's version of the Air Raid Offense actually is. We say it because it’s true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, KingOfTheDot said: We say it because it’s true. If it is, then you'll have no problem actually explaining how it's so in detail instead of just stating it like it's fact that should just be believed because you say so. What specific attributes that Murray has make him a better fit for Kingsbury's Air Raid than Rosen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, NYGiantsman10 said: How deep can the hole go? Are you familiar with the fate of Ozzie Smith on The Simpsons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Shanedorf said: You're asking for absolute certainty where none exists. ... 6 hours ago, PossibleCabbage said: I mean, rather than analyze pictures to figure out someone's height, we could perhaps use some sort of measuring device that is calibrated in inches. If Murray somehow cheated the person at the combine who was measuring his height, are all the other heights suspect? Like the whole reason we have the combine is so we can have accurate medical and height/weight/speed numbers. He didn’t say “absolute certainty”. He said “accurate”. Measuring all the players in a uniform manner with the same tools and largely the same sets of people doing the measuring, is about as close to “accurate” as we’re going to get. Pointing out the time of day or Murray’s posture in terms of how inaccurate his height measurement may be is absolutely reaching. The lengths at which some people are willing to go in order to poke holes in this guy is borderline embarrassing at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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