BayRaider Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Well, to be fair, he should be the highest paid WR in the league. He’s been the best WR in the entire league for like seven years.. minus the Falcons SB year where everyone loved Julio. The question here is, how long is demanding elite tier money? I’d give him a 5 year contract that is completely front loaded and averages 20M a season. Final two years he’d probably make around 17M due to age. However, I would have an escape clause after year 2, 3, 4 and make sure Brown has no escape clause (I don’t want him NBAing me every year cause I know he will). If he doesn’t agree to these terms it’s a no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, SBLIII said: It was so obvious that he wanted a new deal as well. Gut feeling: He asked the Steelers for one and we said no; Rosenhaus said there would be teams willing to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Please explain to me why the Raiders would do this after trading Khalil Mack? I know I have a Broncos avy and no, I am not pushing an agenda. I honestly just can't figure it out. I had settled on the idea that they're going scorched earth for a couple of years and then will make win now moves once in Vegas. How does AB fit into that schedule? Or am I wrong about my idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Calamity_Cometh said: Please explain to me why the Raiders would do this after trading Khalil Mack? I know I have a Broncos avy and no, I am not pushing an agenda. I honestly just can't figure it out. I had settled on the idea that they're going scorched earth for a couple of years and then will make win now moves once in Vegas. How does AB fit into that schedule? Or am I wrong about my idea? Gut feeling tells me it’s about Gruden having “his guys” not someone else’s guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Calamity_Cometh said: Please explain to me why the Raiders would do this after trading Khalil Mack? I know I have a Broncos avy and no, I am not pushing an agenda. I honestly just can't figure it out. I had settled on the idea that they're going scorched earth for a couple of years and then will make win now moves once in Vegas. How does AB fit into that schedule? Or am I wrong about my idea? Well they were basically trying to recycle Mack into more starters. Our defense was 31st in the league with him. If we could get three above average starters, they were probably thinking that would help the defense more. I expect a defense heavy draft. The Mack trade will always be a bit of a mystery and I’m sure there’s a ton of things behind the scene we will never know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 It's the window that I don't get. This is all assuming that the Raiders go scorched earth next year and I think that they will - how is a 32 year old AB better than a 30 year old Mack? Only thing that I can figure is that Mack makes QB money and AB won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Calamity_Cometh said: It's the window that I don't get. This is all assuming that the Raiders go scorched earth next year and I think that they will - how is a 32 year old AB better than a 30 year old Mack? Only thing that I can figure is that Mack makes QB money and AB won't. AB is actually 3 years older. will be 31 in 2019 season while Mack will be 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, SBLIII said: AB is actually 3 years older. will be 31 in 2019 season while Mack will be 28 I was looking at the 2020 season. Probably screwed up my projections regardless though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Calamity_Cometh said: It's the window that I don't get. This is all assuming that the Raiders go scorched earth next year and I think that they will - how is a 32 year old AB better than a 30 year old Mack? Only thing that I can figure is that Mack makes QB money and AB won't. Like I said, we were trying to recycle Mack into more starters. We had the worst defense in Oakland Raider history, with him. Look at the Pats... rather have quality everywhere instead of one superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, BayRaider said: Like I said, we were trying to recycle Mack into more starters. We had the worst defense in Oakland Raider history, with him. Look at the Pats... rather have quality everywhere instead of one superstar. Yeah, you're right and that's fair. I haven't been very clear in what I am trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Like I said, we were trying to recycle Mack into more starters. We had the worst defense in Oakland Raider history, with him. Look at the Pats... rather have quality everywhere instead of one superstar. AB seems like a "we are knocking on the door and need a push to break it down" move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Calamity_Cometh said: AB seems like a "we are knocking on the door and need a push to break it down" move. Raiders certainly won’t contend in 2019 but if they signed Bell and Brown, drafted four defensive starters with the first 35 picks, and then have another solid draft in 2020, they could certainly contend. I originally thought 2021 but now 2020 may be doable. All depends really how aggressive they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, BayRaider said: Raiders certainly won’t contend in 2019 but if they signed Bell and Brown, drafted four defensive starters with the first 35 picks, and then have another solid draft in 2020, they could certainly contend. I originally thought 2021 but now 2020 may be doable. All depends really how aggressive they are. I'm expecting 2020. Maybe it is a poor comparison but after the inaugural season that the Golden Knights had? You want to kill it from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Calamity_Cometh said: AB seems like a "we are knocking on the door and need a push to break it down" move. I understand why people say this. They're not wrong, but you also can't fault a team for trying to add very good players, especially if they aren't spending premium picks to acquire them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 So I read the only thing holding the Raiders back is ABs contract demand otherwise the trade would be done. Assuming he wants way too much. Let some other team get him, I’m not trying to give a WR a 5 year 105+ deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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