MrOaktown_56 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Jeezla said: Derek Carr vs Rosen. Who has more value? Which would you trade for if you were GM of the Giants or Jags? I see another poll coming on lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Jeezla said: Derek Carr vs Rosen. Who has more value? Which would you trade for if you were GM of the Giants or Jags? Carr, and it's not particularly close either. I don't think Carr is worth that much, but I can't imagine after the season he had, anyone being willing to trade more than a 4th for Rosen, regardless of how young he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Rosen has more value than Carr. Look at those contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahUtesFan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I don't have a lot of stock into Rosen. I thought he looked like trash despite a mediocre team around him. Mariota & Winston probably have the least amount of value at the moment, but at least Mariota has had his moments of being decent. I don't see that out of Winston. Not big on Lamar Jackson either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, UtahUtesFan said: I don't have a lot of stock into Rosen. I thought he looked like trash despite a mediocre team around him. Mariota & Winston probably have the least amount of value at the moment, but at least Mariota has had his moments of being decent. I don't see that out of Winston. Not big on Lamar Jackson either. Rosen was the worst QB in football this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPatrickMahomes15 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, pwny said: Carr, and it's not particularly close either. I don't think Carr is worth that much, but I can't imagine after the season he had, anyone being willing to trade more than a 4th for Rosen, regardless of how young he is. bull, it's Rosen because of the contract differences. They're both scrubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 12:48 AM, kingseanjohn said: I've thought about this and I honestly don't even know if I'd take 3 first rounders. It'd have to be a Saints/Redskins trade on steroids; complete drafts. It would need to be one of the other young QBs that have value, Wentz/Watson/Trubisky(yes he has value)/Darnold, with 2+ first round picks for him depending on which QB you're trading with the picks for Mahomes. 17 hours ago, Jeezla said: Derek Carr vs Rosen. Who has more value? Which would you trade for if you were GM of the Giants or Jags? Carr as more value IMO as he's actually able to play, just think he's been in bad situations. The earliest Carr could be moved though is next offseason as he currently has a dead cap of 27 mil if moved this year, but that drops to 5 mil if you move him next offseason. That also means that the team that gets him would have him as a 3yr 58 mil QB at that point which based on his skills is a steal, not to mention they would be able to just cut him if it doesn't work out. As a Saints fan, when Brees walks away after next year, which I think is more likely than not, having him step in and take up the QB cap space that Brees was taking up would be a good transition for the Saints who will still be primed for a run more than likely with a good QB. In that case I'd offer up to a mid-1st value for Carr based on how he plays in 2019, though I think a 2nd would be the right value for him considering the Saints had to spend a 3rd to get Bridgewater who hadn't played in like 3 years to just be a back-up for them while on a 1 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 6:00 PM, patriotsheatyan said: Jamies Winston Marcus Mariota Jared Goff Carson Wentz Mitchell Trubisky Patrick Mahomes Deshaun Watson Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Josh Allen Josh Rosen Lamar Jackson Jameis Winston - mid round pick Marcus Mariota - Day 2 pick Jared Goff - 3+ firsts Carson Wentz - 3+ firsts Mitchell Trubisky - 2+ firsts Patrick Mahomes - Literally untouchable DeShaun Watson - 3+ firsts Baker Mayfield - Literally untouchable because it's the Browns, but otherwise 3+ firsts Sam Darnold - Too early to tell Josh Allen - Too early to tell Josh Rosen - Too early to tell, but probably less than the others in his draft class Lamar Jackson - Too early to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 8:16 AM, CP3MVP said: I mean Sam Bradford was traded for a 1st round pick It was a perfect storm of desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Danger said: Jameis Winston - mid round pick Marcus Mariota - Day 2 pick Jared Goff - 3+ firsts Carson Wentz - 3+ firsts Mitchell Trubisky - 2+ firsts Patrick Mahomes - Literally untouchable DeShaun Watson - 3+ firsts Baker Mayfield - Literally untouchable because it's the Browns, but otherwise 3+ firsts Sam Darnold - Too early to tell Josh Allen - Too early to tell Josh Rosen - Too early to tell, but probably less than the others in his draft class Lamar Jackson - Too early to tell Goff's play does not justify 3 1st round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, SBLIII said: Goff's play does not justify 3 1st round picks. You also have to consider what the team would require to move their guy. And yes, while he stunk it up BAD in the Super Bowl, he's still had plenty of success all in all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, SBLIII said: Goff's play does not justify 3 1st round picks. Maybe you could argue that, but it would be foolish for the Rams to move him for anything less than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, SBLIII said: Goff's play does not justify 3 1st round picks. wentz injury concerns definitely do not justify three 1sts but hes an eagles (I think) fan so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Asciimo said: wentz injury concerns definitely do not justify three 1sts but hes an eagles (I think) fan so I'm just not worried about his injuries tbh. We can disagree on that and that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnaby8787 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 This thread is hilarious. 2nd rounder for Darnold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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