Just Want A Title Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I made the move everyone will probably hate but I think I made some decent moves: Free Agents: John Miller OG--A serviceable starter while we develop a younger player Mike Davis RB--A solid #2RB Kareem Jackson--Signed to a 2-year deal to stabilize our #2CB position Preston Smith OLB--A really good addition that let will give us three LBs that can rush the passer Tyrell Williams WR--A younger WR who will be a more effective than Marvin Jones Nick Boyle TE--A 265lb blocking TE Draft Rd 1--TJ Hockenson TE Rd 2--Charles Omenihu DE Rd 3-- Mike Bell S Rd 4--Andy Isabella Slot WR Rd 5--Oli Udoh Rd 6--Kyle Shurmur QB Rd 6--Qadree Ollison RB We may have taken a TE in RD 1 but I think this is a pretty good outcome for us. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwiftPride Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 We couldn’t make Ebron work and he had a career year last year. Maybe the Lions need to focus on other areas and just get a blocking TE like Boyle. Like the rest of it. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions017 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I'm OK with drafting a TE in the first round if the team fills their other needs through free agency - meaning they get another pass rusher and a #2 corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honolulu2786 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, Lions017 said: I'm OK with drafting a TE in the first round if the team fills their other needs through free agency - meaning they get another pass rusher and a #2 corner. Same. There are some very solid FAs this year at both of those positions. The only other thing is I'd like to see us try to trade back a little bit if we are gonna go the TJ route. The failure with Ebron can't and shouldn't stop us from going after a kid if we believe in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Just Want A Title said: I made the move everyone will probably hate but I think I made some decent moves: Free Agents: John Miller OG--A serviceable starter while we develop a younger player Mike Davis RB--A solid #2RB Kareem Jackson--Signed to a 2-year deal to stabilize our #2CB position Preston Smith OLB--A really good addition that let will give us three LBs that can rush the passer Tyrell Williams WR--A younger WR who will be a more effective than Marvin Jones Nick Boyle TE--A 265lb blocking TE Draft Rd 1--TJ Hockenson TE Rd 2--Charles Omenihu DE Rd 3-- Mike Bell S Rd 4--Andy Isabella Slot WR Rd 5--Oli Udoh Rd 6--Kyle Shurmur QB Rd 6--Qadree Ollison RB We may have taken a TE in RD 1 but I think this is a pretty good outcome for us. Thoughts? I don't expect Isabella to be there in the 4th. I think he's a mid-2nd to 3rd round guy. He's a legit 4.3 guy, seems like a solid character guy and can play inside/out. I think he'll rise more after the combine and when we start getting closer to the actual draft. I recall KJ being a 6th or 7th round guy in early mocks, sometimes even below his teammate (I can't remember that guys name). I can't get behind drafting a TE at #8 regardless of who they are. I like the Omenihu pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Ya this team who definitely should be picking in the top 5... the last piece this team needs the ever elusive te... what a great building block.. I hope they do do something this stupid be easy to walk away from this teams bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 9:06 PM, TimeForChange said: We couldn’t make Ebron work and he had a career year last year. Maybe the Lions need to focus on other areas and just get a blocking TE like Boyle. Like the rest of it. Nice job. I hate this argument about Ebron because he just had a higher usage rate. He still had a lot of drops and still caught a low percentage of balls thrown in his direction. Very similar numbers to what he did here. He just caught more TDs this year. I'd also say Luck is better than Stafford so that helps. Aside from that, I think we need a TE, just not at 8. Or in the first anywhere IMO. See whats available day 2 or three at the position. I'd rather take two late and hope one develops opposed to drafting one that high. I'd still want a pass rusher or better 3/4 DE type at 8 if we stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: I hate this argument about Ebron because he just had a higher usage rate. He still had a lot of drops and still caught a low percentage of balls thrown in his direction. Very similar numbers to what he did here. He just caught more TDs this year. I'd also say Luck is better than Stafford so that helps. Aside from that, I think we need a TE, just not at 8. Or in the first anywhere IMO. See whats available day 2 or three at the position. I'd rather take two late and hope one develops opposed to drafting one that high. I'd still want a pass rusher or better 3/4 DE type at 8 if we stay there. Agreed - 100%. Outside of the TD's and targets, Ebron was basically the same guy. Pretty high drop rate. They just used him in the red zone on a more frequent basis. I'd like to see a trade down unless an elite defensive guy is available and draft two TE's. I would also re-sign Toilolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X_Factor_40 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Ebron benefits from being the first or second option when the Colts get down into the Red Zone. He wasn't that guy here, and I think a large part of his issue in general was lack of motivation. He never seemed to care and it showed quite a bit on and off the field. I'd be horrified if the Lions took a TE at 8. Day 2 or 3? Absolutely, I'd be all for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, X_Factor_40 said: Ebron benefits from being the first or second option when the Colts get down into the Red Zone. He wasn't that guy here, and I think a large part of his issue in general was lack of motivation. He never seemed to care and it showed quite a bit on and off the field. I'd be horrified if the Lions took a TE at 8. Day 2 or 3? Absolutely, I'd be all for that. If a guy like Hockenson was a guarantee to be Rob Gronkowski right out of the gate... then the pick would make sense. Majority of TE's take 1-2 years to develop. A number of them are converted QB's or WR's, undersized OL coming into college. Perfect example: Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M Rivals.com had him listed as a weakside defensive end (played both ways in HS). Signs with Kansas, winds up in JUCO and eventually with the Aggies. Dawson Knox was listed as a dual threat QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZski Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 The only player in your mock that I like where you took them is Andy Isabella but he will probably be a 2nd rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Fan Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I made the move everyone will probably hate but I think I made some decent moves: Free Agents: John Miller OG--A serviceable starter while we develop a younger player We've done this year after year...either sign a starter, draft a starter, or make a trade. Mike Davis RB--A solid #2RB Really rather keep my RB's under 24/25, keep Kerryon. Try and find a tough all around back in the draft. Kareem Jackson--Signed to a 2-year deal to stabilize our #2CB position Solid, but old. Think Glover Quin. I'd rather draft one earlier. Preston Smith OLB--A really good addition that let will give us three LBs that can rush the passer Not to knowledgeable about this guy, but like the position and what I read about him. Tyrell Williams WR--A younger WR who will be a more effective than Marvin Jones I think we should definetly trade Marvin. But draft a fresher WR. Nick Boyle TE--A 265lb blocking TE Draft Rd 1--TJ Hockenson TE Oh I really hope not. I wouldnt draft a TE in the first round of any draft ever. That's me though. I would go D-line, CB, LB. Rd 2--Charles Omenihu DE Don't know much about him. Like the position Rd 3-- Mike Bell S Rd 4--Andy Isabella Slot WR Rd 5--Oli Udoh Rd 6--Kyle Shurmur QB Rd 6--Qadree Ollison RB We may have taken a TE in RD 1 but I think this is a pretty good outcome for us. Thoughts Overall I would be very sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lioneye22 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If we could trade back a couple spots then Hockenson or Fant might be in play. I don't think the value is there at #8. You've got better players at positions with just as big a need as TE, like DE and CB. I'm not sold on Jackson. He's more of a slot CB. We need a true outside CB to pair with Slay. You can always move Lawson into the slot. You might even try Tabor there to cover RBs and TEs (although I don't hold out much hope that he can cover anything more than kicks) Never heard of Tyrell Williams, but we'll need more options at WR and I don't believe Isabella is going to be there in the 4th rnd. I do think we can find some players in the later rounds. From what I saw of the Combine there might be some late round gems . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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