Dr LBC Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, EL Guapo said: Giants may be leaning to keeping Vernon according to Rapoport I'd have to go back and look, but I feel like we see this every year from teams (not specifically the Giants, it kind of changes year to year with teams... and beat writers speculating...), where we see all these recent free agent and trade acquisitions who haven't quite lived up to the massive contracts they're on "shopped" right after the upper tier of the free agent pool is ransacked by team's using the franchise tag. Clearly, it doesn't hurt to look (especially if you can cover your tracks and just blame a beat writer shopping for clicks with speculation if the player feels unsettled) to see if some team that was counting on getting, say, a premier pass-rusher on the market and is now looking at the prospect of having to pay $17M/yr to Trey Flowers is more amenable to giving up an asset for say Olivier Vernon at $15.5M (clearly the compensation would need to consider the Giants would eat $8m in dead money to do the transaction) or Robert Quinn at ~$13M/yr. They're not likely to occur, but it doesn't hurt to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: Bell is gonna get paid, he has a ton of suitors. Jets, Bucs, Raiders, Eagles, Ravens, Texans will all be highly interested imo... and I think the 49ers, Packers, and Dolphins will at least inquire. I can flat out tell you the Texans are not interested. Two pot suspensions and sitting out an entire season over a contract isn't the sort of person Cal McNair or Bill O'Brien wants in Houston. For better or worse, the personality profile of Bell isn't going to fit in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Danger said: I think you're vastly overestimating what he's going to get. My guess is somewhere around $13-14M AAV Simply not gonna happen, too much competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Nicholas Moreano@NicholasMoreano17m17 minutes agoAdam Schefter joined Waddle & Silvy to discuss the Jordan Howard trade rumors. Schefter said that the talks have been going on for a while. Schefter said he thinks the trade could get done once trades start happening. He also believes that Howard would be traded for a Day 3 pick.Aaron Leming@AaronLemingNFLAaron Leming Retweeted Nicholas MoreanoReferenced the Carlos Hyde trade, which was for a 5th rounder. #Bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, WindyCity said: Nicholas Moreano@NicholasMoreano17m17 minutes agoAdam Schefter joined Waddle & Silvy to discuss the Jordan Howard trade rumors. Schefter said that the talks have been going on for a while. Schefter said he thinks the trade could get done once trades start happening. He also believes that Howard would be traded for a Day 3 pick.Aaron Leming@AaronLemingNFLAaron Leming Retweeted Nicholas MoreanoReferenced the Carlos Hyde trade, which was for a 5th rounder. #Bears I'd strongly consider that if I were the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 nearly every team in the NFL should be interest in jordan howad if he is going for a 4th or a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: nearly every team in the NFL should be interest in jordan howad if he is going for a 4th or a 5th. Nah. But zone teams should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 hours ago, The LBC said: I'd have to go back and look, but I feel like we see this every year from teams (not specifically the Giants, it kind of changes year to year with teams... and beat writers speculating...), where we see all these recent free agent and trade acquisitions who haven't quite lived up to the massive contracts they're on "shopped" right after the upper tier of the free agent pool is ransacked by team's using the franchise tag. Clearly, it doesn't hurt to look (especially if you can cover your tracks and just blame a beat writer shopping for clicks with speculation if the player feels unsettled) to see if some team that was counting on getting, say, a premier pass-rusher on the market and is now looking at the prospect of having to pay $17M/yr to Trey Flowers is more amenable to giving up an asset for say Olivier Vernon at $15.5M (clearly the compensation would need to consider the Giants would eat $8m in dead money to do the transaction) or Robert Quinn at ~$13M/yr. They're not likely to occur, but it doesn't hurt to look. May also hint at what the Giants plan on doing at the top of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Nah. But zone teams should be. I mean, has Howard learned how to catch yet or at we still blaming Jay Cutler for that? Normally, I'd think that a team like Atlanta would be all over Howard, assuming his cap-number is reasonable, given that Devonta Freeman hasn't been the portrait of consistent health, but they're likely looking to replace Tevin Coleman's passing-down reps as much (or more) than his COP reps. And, to be honest, with all the underclassmen declares these days, there are 3-4 Jordan Howards in every draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, The LBC said: I mean, has Howard learned how to catch yet or at we still blaming Jay Cutler for that? Normally, I'd think that a team like Atlanta would be all over Howard, assuming his cap-number is reasonable, given that Devonta Freeman hasn't been the portrait of consistent health, but they're likely looking to replace Tevin Coleman's passing-down reps as much (or more) than his COP reps. And, to be honest, with all the underclassmen declares these days, there are 3-4 Jordan Howards in every draft class. I'm not sure I can agree with that. Howard can be a terror in a zone scheme. He has improved as a receiver, but it's still not a strength. Regardless, in a zone scheme with talent around him, he's a very productive HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, The LBC said: I mean, has Howard learned how to catch yet or at we still blaming Jay Cutler for that? Normally, I'd think that a team like Atlanta would be all over Howard, assuming his cap-number is reasonable, given that Devonta Freeman hasn't been the portrait of consistent health, but they're likely looking to replace Tevin Coleman's passing-down reps as much (or more) than his COP reps. And, to be honest, with all the underclassmen declares these days, there are 3-4 Jordan Howards in every draft class. We already have Colemans replacement on the roster in Ito Smith and he has really good hands as well. Honestly alot of the times Ito looked like the better RB between the 2 while freeman was out. Even though the stats don;t really show it. But watching the game alot of fans on the Falcons board liked him and his style better of the 2. This was in an article earlier in the season and he even got better after this. Our O-line was garbage last year overall. "His 3.2 YPC average doesn’t look appealing on the surface, but all but one of his 102 yards have come after contact. Smith has also forced a missed tackle on 26.2% of his touches, as he ranks seventh out of 54 qualifiers in elusive rating". I would rather not give anything for Howard personally in a trade as i think we can find someone as good if not better than him in the 4th or 5th round on a cheaper contract for alot more years if we even go RB. I think alot of people forget we drafted the Judge last year as Colemans replacement lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Micheal Bennett sounds like he is being traded or released and he wants a new deal. Marcus Gilbert being shopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damikeeeee Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Michael Bennett is not a guy I want in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Damikeeeee said: Michael Bennett is not a guy I want in the locker room. Agreed, him or his stupid looking "shoulder pads". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: Agreed, him or his stupid looking "shoulder pads". I imagine by the end of this upcoming season he simply won’t even be wearing shoulder pads and no one will have known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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