Rockcity2 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: I do think that it's HIGHLY unlikely to happen but if the Jags ever were ready to move on, we likely could manage it. Peterson is a more realistic candidate if we actually go that route. A large part of this depends on what the plans are for Coleman. Personally I'd take either if the price were right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rockcity2 said: Personally I'd take either if the price were right #8 is a pretty high price to me even though he's a very good player. My understanding is that the Patriots prefer to have veteran guys as the starters in the secondary but obviously let play dictate more playing time (which is why a guy like Malcolm Butler can play himself into a key role as a UDFA on a SB team). It's not usual for a Patriots team to take a DB in round 1 but they also tended to be picking in the bottom of the draft after the top guys were gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: #8 is a pretty high price to me even though he's a very good player. My understanding is that the Patriots prefer to have veteran guys as the starters in the secondary but obviously let play dictate more playing time (which is why a guy like Malcolm Butler can play himself into a key role as a UDFA on a SB team). It's not usual for a Patriots team to take a DB in round 1 but they also tended to be picking in the bottom of the draft after the top guys were gone. 34 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: #8 is a pretty high price to me even though he's a very good player. My understanding is that the Patriots prefer to have veteran guys as the starters in the secondary but obviously let play dictate more playing time (which is why a guy like Malcolm Butler can play himself into a key role as a UDFA on a SB team). It's not usual for a Patriots team to take a DB in round 1 but they also tended to be picking in the bottom of the draft after the top guys were gone. How many guys would you have above Ramsey in this draft roughly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rockcity2 said: How many guys would you have above Ramsey in this draft roughly There would only be a handful of guys in that neighbourhood but even so, the Jaguars have proven themselves that an elite CB isn't going to win a SB alone. So I would be on board with a 1st and 3rd. Anything more than that and you're starting to go down the path that a bad team goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: There would only be a handful of guys in that neighbourhood but even so, the Jaguars have proven themselves that an elite CB isn't going to win a SB alone. So I would be on board with a 1st and 3rd. Anything more than that and you're starting to go down the path that a bad team goes down. That team Jacksonville was very close to a sb and you could say the secondary was the reason they were in position in the first place.. they made Campbell look ten yrs younger Pats have Gilmore and were aggressive You could argue slay is our Gilmore Coleman is our mccourtny (How ever the hell you spell it) but I see ne as a tad better there.. Slay and Ramsey would make teams basically one dimensional imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, Rockcity2 said: That team Jacksonville was very close to a sb and you could say the secondary was the reason they were in position in the first place.. they made Campbell look ten yrs younger Pats have Gilmore and were aggressive You could argue slay is our Gilmore Coleman is our mccourtny (How ever the hell you spell it) but I see ne as a tad better there.. Slay and Ramsey would make teams basically one dimensional imo Do you feel the same way about PP? Because I do agree that Ramsey is a pipe dream unless he becomes too much for the Jags (wants to get paid, doesn't like Foles at QB, isn't a fan of the offensive weapons, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Your willing to take white is he in that handful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Karnage84 said: Do you feel the same way about PP? Because I do agree that Ramsey is a pipe dream unless he becomes too much for the Jags (wants to get paid, doesn't like Foles at QB, isn't a fan of the offensive weapons, etc.). Not for number 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rockcity2 said: Your willing to take white is he in that handful? I'm not done trying to figure out White. His highlights are great. His stats are very good. His measurables are as good as any. Watching some games he seems to get swallowed up by blockers. It could just have been the games (I think I watched cut ups of two games) I saw but it did leave me scratching my head. If he's what everything lines up to be and we are staying at 8, I think I'd rather take him and upgrade our LB corp. If we trade down, then I wouldn't be opposed to grabbing an OL if Williams or Taylor are there and BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Fan Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I was in love with PP from LSU...I just dont think anyone over like 24 is worth s first rd pick...cause if you hate that pick...just trade down and get more!! (: lol...dont know why the Lions always butcher it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Fan Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Karnage84 said: I'm not done trying to figure out White. His highlights are great. His stats are very good. His measurables are as good as any. Watching some games he seems to get swallowed up by blockers. It could just have been the games (I think I watched cut ups of two games) I saw but it did leave me scratching my head. If he's what everything lines up to be and we are staying at 8, I think I'd rather take him and upgrade our LB corp. If we trade down, then I wouldn't be opposed to grabbing an OL if Williams or Taylor are there and BPA. can you post footage? cause i feel your definition of swallowed up is like two plays where he is double teamed and/or trips on his shoelace and falls down....lmao...this guy is a freak...and will wreck someone like Q.Nelson on Sunday...(yeah I know later in the game Nelson will probably wreck him..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: I'm not done trying to figure out White. His highlights are great. His stats are very good. His measurables are as good as any. Watching some games he seems to get swallowed up by blockers. It could just have been the games (I think I watched cut ups of two games) I saw but it did leave me scratching my head. If he's what everything lines up to be and we are staying at 8, I think I'd rather take him and upgrade our LB corp. If we trade down, then I wouldn't be opposed to grabbing an OL if Williams or Taylor are there and BPA. Kinda have to chalk some it to his experience imo I'm for trading down but I'd really want something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, NFL_Fan said: can you post footage? cause i feel your definition of swallowed up is like two plays where he is double teamed and/or trips on his shoelace and falls down....lmao...this guy is a freak...and will wreck someone like Q.Nelson on Sunday...(yeah I know later in the game Nelson will probably wreck him..) 0:51 (?) > Gets manhandled by #77 and the RB makes a big play. 1:06, gets tied up with a blocker and there's a big play. TE #89 has him wrapped up for a big play by the RB. He's being double teamed at about 1:56? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Fan Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Karnage84 said: 0:51 (?) > Gets manhandled by #77 and the RB makes a big play. 1:06, gets tied up with a blocker and there's a big play. TE #89 has him wrapped up for a big play by the RB. He's being double teamed at about 1:56? omg he shot the wrong gap....oncee....not manhandled...he literally pushed him where he waas going...play ation thats a sack..inside run thats a loss....he guessed and lost...easily fixed by waatching film.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenhater Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 hours ago, NFL_Fan said: I would rather draft Gary with our pick Gross. Give me the the 24 year old all pro CB over the guy without a true position who didn’t produce in college all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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