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23 minutes ago, Darbsk said:

Nobody's mentioned it but heard very little about Mauro and he missed some important game time (for players trying to make the team) so IMO he's no lock to make the roster, especially with Westbrook being able to be versatile and the DTs we have. I could easily see one of Key, Westbrooks or Mayowa beating him out to start and of course he's no use as a pass rush specialist or rotation player so he could be a cut especially if Key really shows out well against the run in the next two games. I've been impressed with key thus far, even though it's still pre-season, seems to have upped his all round game.

Every beatwriter so far seems to be sure about Mauro as our base LDE. Last year we used Granda Rucker because he was a steady option against the run. I still expect him to be safe as a 53 lock. With that said Key showed a lot more against the run and also as a rusher this year so far, so he definately could eat in his playing time. I think if Key can show up we will see Ferrell and Key as the pair more and more as the season goes on and Mauro could stick as a run down guy.

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6 hours ago, Humble_Beast said:

My 53 post Preseason Week 2 prediction (will do a final one after preseason)

QB: Carr, Glennon (2)

RB: Jacobs, Richard, Martin, Washington(4)

FB: Ingold (1)

WR: AB, Williams, JJ, Grant, Renfrow, Doss (6)

TE: Waller, Wilson, Moreau (3)

T: Miller, Brown, Sharpe, Parker (4)

G: Good, Cooper , Devey(G/C)(3)

C: Hudson, (1)

-----------------------------Offense (25)

Defense----------------------- (25)

DE: Ferrell, Mauro, Key, Mayowa, Westbrooks (5)

DT: Hankins, Jelly, Hurst, Hall (4)

OLB: Whitehead, Marshall, Lee, Morrow (4)

MLB: Vontaze, Cabinda (2)

CB: Conely, Worley, Mullens, Nelson, Johnson (5) 

S:  Joyner, Joseph, Abram, Harris, Riley (5)

Specialists: AJ Cole, Carlson, Depaola, D Harris (4)

Suspended List: Lawson, Richie

PUP: Max, Gabe

Practice Team:

QB- Peterman- Gruden keep another Qb around, and he plays with heart

WR: R Gafford- I could see Rico steal Harris spot if he can ball out these next two games 

TE: P Butler - hurt by injury this camp

T: T Roemer - thin at OL the first two games, but with an injury call one of these development rookies. Richie instant starter week 3 and kicks Cooper to the bench

G: Cotton

C: A James

DE: Q Bell

DT: A Rush

MLB: T Coney

CB: K Nixon

Notable Cuts: K Smith, D Kirkland, D Carrier, E Vanderdoes, Jordan Richards, K Wilber, J Cowser

Interesting list. I can agree with most but I see Carrier making the team over Willson. Really could go either way.

I think Ryan Grant gets cut and I have to think Ateman makes the team, but if they go with Doss he may be expendable or hit the PS if eligible.

I'm rooting for Coney to make the team but you're probably right that him and Rush go to PS.

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3 hours ago, justwinbaby81 said:

Interesting list. I can agree with most but I see Carrier making the team over Willson. Really could go either way.

I think Ryan Grant gets cut and I have to think Ateman makes the team, but if they go with Doss he may be expendable or hit the PS if eligible.

I'm rooting for Coney to make the team but you're probably right that him and Rush go to PS.

Carrier is a lock over Wilson. Isn't close IMO. Carrier is a core ST guy and blocking TE. 

If Grant isn't traded he makes the team and starts in the slot. Renfro needs seasoning before starting. Doss I think makes it over Ateman. More upside, Ateman is limited with his speed,

Coney?!? What has he even done? I forgot he was on the team. Why would he make it?

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2 minutes ago, big_palooka said:

Coney?!? What has he even done? I forgot he was on the team. Why would he make it?

Yea he hasn't done a thing. Prime PS guy at best right now.

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My Final 53 man prediction

Offense (25)

QB: Carr, Glennon

RB: Jacobs, Martin, Richard, Washington

FB: Ingold

WR: Brown, Williams, Renfrow, Nelson, Doss, Harris

TE: Waller, Moreau, Carrier

OT: Brown, Miller, Sharpe

OG: Incognito, Jackson, Good, Cooper

C: Hudson, Devey 

Defense (25) 

DE: Ferrell, Key, Mauro, Mayowa, Crosby 

DT: Hankins, Hurst, Hall, Rush, Westbrooks

OLB: Whitehead, Marshall, Lee, Morrow

ILB: Burfict, Wilber 

CB: Conley, Worley, Mullens, Johnson

S: Abram, Joyner, Joseph, Harris, Riley 

Special Teams (3)

K: Carlson

P: Cole

LS: Depaola

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7 hours ago, Darbsk said:

Nobody's mentioned it but heard very little about Mauro and he missed some important game time (for players trying to make the team) so IMO he's no lock to make the roster, especially with Westbrook being able to be versatile and the DTs we have. I could easily see one of Key, Westbrooks or Mayowa beating him out to start and of course he's no use as a pass rush specialist or rotation player so he could be a cut especially if Key really shows out well against the run in the next two games. I've been impressed with key thus far, even though it's still pre-season, seems to have upped his all round game.

good point. sucks he offers nothing as a pass rusher

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2 hours ago, NYRaider said:

My Final 53 man prediction

Offense (25)

QB: Carr, Glennon

RB: Jacobs, Martin, Richard, Washington

FB: Ingold

WR: Brown, Williams, Renfrow, Nelson, Doss, Harris

TE: Waller, Moreau, Carrier

OT: Brown, Miller, Sharpe

OG: Incognito, Jackson, Good, Cooper

C: Hudson, Devey 

Defense (25) 

DE: Ferrell, Key, Mauro, Mayowa, Crosby 

DT: Hankins, Hurst, Hall, Rush, Westbrooks

OLB: Whitehead, Marshall, Lee, Morrow

ILB: Burfict, Wilber 

CB: Conley, Worley, Mullens, Johnson

S: Abram, Joyner, Joseph, Harris, Riley 

Special Teams (3)

K: Carlson

P: Cole

LS: Depaola

wow Parker, Grant, Jelly, Cabinda, Nelson all gone. idk about that

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5 hours ago, Humble_Beast said:

wow Parker, Grant, Jelly, Cabinda, Nelson all gone. idk about that

Carry Parker, Cabinda, and Nelson on the practice squad along with guys like Bell and Ateman. Trade Grant and Jelly for late-round picks. Renfrow has outplayed Grant and there's no reason to carry two smaller slot guys that don't have special teams value. Doss is more versatile than Grant, has a higher upside, and cheaper. Rush has been dominant this preseason, plus he's $5M cheaper than Jelly in 20-21. 

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2 hours ago, NYRaider said:

Carry Parker, Cabinda, and Nelson on the practice squad along with guys like Bell and Ateman. Trade Grant and Jelly for late-round picks. Renfrow has outplayed Grant and there's no reason to carry two smaller slot guys that don't have special teams value. Doss is more versatile than Grant, has a higher upside, and cheaper. Rush has been dominant this preseason, plus he's $5M cheaper than Jelly in 20-21. 

+1 to all of this. I’ll add that Jelly’s money will all be dead cap this and next year so we may as well rip off the bandaid if we think Rush can give us most of what Ellis does 

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QB - Carr - Glennon
RB - Jacobs - Martin - Richard - Washington
FB - Ingold
TE - Waller - Moreau - Carrier
WR - Brown - Williams - Renefrow - Nelson - Grant
LT - Miller - Parker
LG - Cooper - Devey
C - Hudson
RG - Good
RT - Brown - Sharpe
Total Offense: 24

DE - Ferrell - Mayowa
DT - Hankins - Ellis - Westbrooks
DT - Hurst - Hall
DE - Key - Mauro - Crosby
WLB - Whitehead - Morrow
MLB - Burfict - Cabinda
SLB - Marshall - Lee
CB - Conley - Mullen - Joyner - Worley - Nixon
FS - Joseph - Harris
SS - Abram - Riley
Total Defense : 25

K - Carlson
P - Cole
LS - DePaola
PR/KR - Harris
Total Specialist: 4


PS or Mysterious IR (Warren treament):
CB Johnson
ILB Coney
OG Cotton
DE Bell
WR Doss
DT Rush
OC James

PUP or Suspension
Lawson
Jackson
Incognito
Vanderdoes

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Gruden alluded to keeping 3 QBs last night. Also said 5 URFA could make this team.

I don't think you can leave Rush or Doss off this roster. Ingold offers more than Smith from what I've seen

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Anyone else think the raiders are going to try and trade Washington? He’s played quite a bit already in preseason i think they’re trying to showcase him. Especially since we haven’t seen too much Richard. 

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37 minutes ago, Chali21 said:

Anyone else think the raiders are going to try and trade Washington? He’s played quite a bit already in preseason i think they’re trying to showcase him. Especially since we haven’t seen too much Richard. 

Possibly. He and Grant are two guys that could be moved for a late pick. 

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1 hour ago, big_palooka said:

Possibly. He and Grant are two guys that could be moved for a late pick. 

I think Ellis could also be traded.

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