Dessie 331 Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Totty said: Why would we not put KJ next to Abrams? This. Could we not play Joyner, Joseph and Abrams’ together and throw a lot of different looks. Joyner as slot or FS , Abrams as LB etc ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BayRaider 2,984 Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Totty said: Why would we not put KJ next to Abrams? KJ is an average FS. He’s do ok, not bad, but that’s not where his skillset lies. His skillset is much more of a SS. As a SS he’s a 2nd Round Talent. As a FS he’s a 3rd-4th Round Talent. I’d rather flip Joseph for a 4th, have two 4ths, and get a starting TE and G in the 4th Round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silver&Black88 1,271 Posted April 26, 2019 Joseph is a limited player due to size. I doubt we will re-sign him next season, so why not try to get value for him before he's gone? I don't think he will net even a 4th round comp pick in FA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humble_Beast 397 Posted April 26, 2019 yeah it be nice if we could flip Ellis Joseph Richard/Washington for picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drfrey13 611 Posted April 29, 2019 Just wanted to post last year week 1 starters vs my projected 2019 week 1 starters. The team is much improved and although I think we could have done more or received greater value can not complain with the improvement. Starters 2018 2019 QB Carr = Carr RB Lynch < Jacobs WR Cooper < Brown WR Nelson < Williams LT Miller <<< Brown LG KO = Jackson C Hudson = Hudson RG Jackson >> Good RT Penn < Miller TE Cook >> Moreau WR Roberts ? Renfrow DE Irvin << Ferrell DT Hall < Hurst NT Ellis < Hankins DE Key = Key WLB Whitehead = Whitehead MLB Johnson < Marshall SLB Lee < Burfict CB Melvin < Conley SS Joseph = Abram FS Gilchrist < Joyner CB Conley > Mullen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBXISBXVSBXVIII 858 Posted April 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: Just wanted to post last year week 1 starters vs my projected 2019 week 1 starters. The team is much improved and although I think we could have done more or received greater value can not complain with the improvement. Starters 2018 2019 QB Carr = Carr RB Lynch < Jacobs WR Cooper < Brown WR Nelson < Williams LT Miller <<< Brown LG KO = Jackson C Hudson = Hudson RG Jackson >> Good RT Penn < Miller TE Cook >> Moreau WR Roberts ? Renfrow DE Irvin << Ferrell DT Hall < Hurst NT Ellis < Hankins DE Key = Key WLB Whitehead = Whitehead MLB Johnson < Marshall SLB Lee < Burfict CB Melvin < Conley SS Joseph = Abram FS Gilchrist < Joyner CB Conley > Mullen Nicely done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaKid7 142 Posted April 29, 2019 Great look side by side. Definitely much improved and younger. Would hope Key<Key but time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drfrey13 611 Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CaliforniaKid7 said: Great look side by side. Definitely much improved and younger. Would hope Key<Key but time will tell. Thought about that after. Carr and Key should both improve with a chance of Hudson (30) and Whitehead (29) possibly regressing because of age. Jackson is a wildcard. If he can get better by moving to LG then he will be an improvement over KO 2018. Edited April 29, 2019 by drfrey13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrOaktown_56 1,050 Posted April 29, 2019 2 hours ago, drfrey13 said: Thought about that after. Carr and Key should both improve with a chance of Hudson (30) and Whitehead (29) possibly regressing because of age. Jackson is a wildcard. If he can get better by moving to LG then he will be an improvement over KO 2018. Hudson IMO will play very well into his 30s like many interior OL do. I think Whitehead may be replaced by Marshall/one of the rookies/Cabinda depending on how things go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roninho 69 Posted April 29, 2019 On 27-4-2019 at 1:07 AM, Silver&Black88 said: Joseph is a limited player due to size. I doubt we will re-sign him next season, so why not try to get value for him before he's gone? I don't think he will net even a 4th round comp pick in FA. What do you think we could have fetched? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roninho 69 Posted April 29, 2019 On 27-4-2019 at 1:21 AM, Humble_Beast said: yeah it be nice if we could flip Ellis Joseph Richard/Washington for picks Personally i'd keep them. All will see plenty of time on the field anyway and they will be needed to step up once our starters get injured during the season. Imo that provides more value then a late round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geezy 544 Posted April 29, 2019 that was a nice side by side. And I agree we should be better up an down the roster. What the list doesn't show, is that our depth is a lot better as well. It will take some time, but I see us being very competitive in the second part of the year. I think we were clouded by a lot of uncertainty last year, especially with the trade rumors. I think the locker will be more together and itll show on the field. Gruden has HIS guys, I believe that will go a long way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big_palooka 2,821 Posted April 29, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 7:07 PM, Silver&Black88 said: Joseph is a limited player due to size. I doubt we will re-sign him next season, so why not try to get value for him before he's gone? I don't think he will net even a 4th round comp pick in FA. What value does he have it trade though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silver&Black88 1,271 Posted April 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, big_palooka said: What value does he have it trade though? He could be a starter FS. I imagine we try to show him off in preseason. Or wait for someone to get injured before the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
