Cheesehawk Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I don’t know how anyone could argue this isn’t a win for the Raiders. AB is the type of WR who will age nicely and him being 31 is way overblown. With his grind he will ball till 37 if he wants to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Dome said: Doesn’t really change anything IMO. I wasn’t under the impression the moves happened in a vacuum when I made the comment. You said you don't think it makes sense when looking at other moves. But it does. Values, #s, situations all play into making this a logical move. Makes plenty of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Antonio Brown was on the trade block? I'm surprised people didn't talk about that more..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I wasn't one who loved the idea of trading for AB given the Raiders dearth of talent at all levels. But keeping 4 picks inside the top 35 is huge for their future. I don't understand those commenting on AB flaming out. AB has been the hardest worker in the league, that won't change. That's in his DNA. He knows and works to be the best. I think he comes in motivated and has a coach who will actually jive with him. Gruden took on Rison who was a hothead. Took on Jerry Rice when he was upset with his role in SF. Regarding Brown's age. Rice went for 1200 yards and 7 TDs at age 40 under Gruden. I reference this because Brown is a similar type worker and and all time great WR. His preparation to the game is unlike many in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 AB is on the wrong side of 30, has a bad attitude and is just another Santonio Holmes/Mike Wallace/Plaxico Burress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Regarding Brown's age. Rice went for 1200 yards and 7 TDs at age 40 under Gruden. I reference this because Brown is a similar type worker and and all time great WR. His preparation to the game is unlike many in the league. Don't compare Antonio Brown to Jerry Rice ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, big_palooka said: I wasn't one who loved the idea of trading for AB given the Raiders dearth of talent at all levels. But keeping 4 picks inside the top 35 is huge for their future. I don't understand those commenting on AB flaming out. AB has been the hardest worker in the league, that won't change. That's in his DNA. He knows and works to be the best. I think he comes in motivated and has a coach who will actually jive with him. Gruden took on Rison who was a hothead. Took on Jerry Rice when he was upset with his role in SF. Regarding Brown's age. Rice went for 1200 yards and 7 TDs at age 40 under Gruden. I reference this because Brown is a similar type worker and and all time great WR. His preparation to the game is unlike many in the league. Yes agree on all of your points. Especially people thinking AB isn’t a hard worker or something. Just cause he can be a diva doesn’t mean he isn’t by far one of the hardest working players in football. He loves this sport and his work ethic is bar none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, iknowcool said: He’s being rewarded for being an all-time great WR who should still be elite for 3-4 more years. And how is AB a diva? People keep reducing him to that. By all accounts his work ethic is insane and he doesn’t take plays off. All he does is ball. Why can’t players be vocal and express themselves without being reduced to something negative? AB did what he had to do to escape a clearly toxic situation. a person can work hard at their craft and still be a "diva" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cheesehawk said: I don’t know how anyone could argue this isn’t a win for the Raiders. AB is the type of WR who will age nicely and him being 31 is way overblown. With his grind he will ball till 37 if he wants to He relies on quickness to get separation. Once that isn't elite he won't be either. His catch rate has dropped each of the last 4 season. While you could argue his QB has something to do with that, for a receiver who usually averages 12-13 yards per catch his percentage should be around 70 instead of 60 if he is elite. I think he has 2 more years of AB left in him but after that probably wouldn't be worth more than a #2 or even #3 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Elky said: Don't compare Antonio Brown to Jerry Rice ever again. AB is the 2nd best receiver of all time behind Rice and I’ve been saying that long before he was a Raider. Him and Rice also play similar. Two best route runners of all time easily, top tier agility, and both fantastic at YAC. I will agree with you though no one is touching Rice though. I think he is easily the GOAT of football ahead of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Elky said: Don't compare Antonio Brown to Jerry Rice ever again. Pretty fair comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, BayRaider said: AB is the 2nd best receiver of all time behind Rice and I’ve been saying that long before he was a Raider. Him and Rice also play similar. Two best route runners of all time easily, top tier agility, and both fantastic at YAC. I will agree with you though no one is touching Rice though. I think he is easily the GOAT of football ahead of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. AB ain't got **** on Moss and TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugpimpen Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, TakeTheBallDeep said: Why not? Just assumed he'd start to slow down by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Elky said: AB ain't got **** on Moss and TO. Moss and TO are no where near as well rounded as AB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, BayRaider said: Moss and TO are no where near as well rounded as AB. They are straight up better receivers. Don't lie to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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