showtime Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Clark basically saying that if the Seahawks franchise him, that he will 100% walk. Could be another Earl Thomas situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Announcer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Ugh. The franchise tag needs to just go away. I'm so tired of this drama bull**** with the stupid FT every offseason. We need to resign Clark, though. He's a huge asset on the DL for this team and he's young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 hours ago, NFL_Announcer said: Ugh. The franchise tag needs to just go away. I'm so tired of this drama bull**** with the stupid FT every offseason. We need to resign Clark, though. He's a huge asset on the DL for this team and he's young. I like the tag, but they need to add a second year guaranteed for injury that does not count against the salary cap or something. Its ludicrous that a violent sport essentially forces the top players to take massive amounts of risk to give the team long term flexibility. If a guy gets hurt on a tag and cant play a single game the following year, he should get another year at like 50% of the tag amount or something like that. There would need to be some ways to ensure guys dont fake injury, but yeah, something needs to change. Frank Clark is incredible and I really hope you guys are dumb enough to screw this up. I hope the niners draft Josh Allen who would play SAM for us, so that we could swoop up Clark next offseason. Clark Ford Allen Buckner Thomas would be an all time unit lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Announcer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, N4L said: I like the tag, but they need to add a second year guaranteed for injury that does not count against the salary cap or something. Its ludicrous that a violent sport essentially forces the top players to take massive amounts of risk to give the team long term flexibility. If a guy gets hurt on a tag and cant play a single game the following year, he should get another year at like 50% of the tag amount or something like that. There would need to be some ways to ensure guys dont fake injury, but yeah, something needs to change. Frank Clark is incredible and I really hope you guys are dumb enough to screw this up. I hope the niners draft Josh Allen who would play SAM for us, so that we could swoop up Clark next offseason. Clark Ford Allen Buckner Thomas would be an all time unit lol That would be a sick crew... and as a Seahawks fan would make me sick to my stomach. Will be interesting to see what Seattle does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Announcer Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Only problem with Clark is Wagner/Reed are free agents in 2020 as well... and Reed has looked pretty promising as a pass rusher. The 2019 draft is EXTREMELY deep with EDGE rushers (probably the deepest I've seen in my lifetime). With Wilson signing $35M per and Clark wanting Mack/Lawrence money (sorry he's not as good as either), I'm not sure Seattle pulls the trigger. I think they let him walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks98 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 12:09 AM, N4L said: I like the tag, but they need to add a second year guaranteed for injury that does not count against the salary cap or something. Its ludicrous that a violent sport essentially forces the top players to take massive amounts of risk to give the team long term flexibility. If a guy gets hurt on a tag and cant play a single game the following year, he should get another year at like 50% of the tag amount or something like that. There would need to be some ways to ensure guys dont fake injury, but yeah, something needs to change. Frank Clark is incredible and I really hope you guys are dumb enough to screw this up. I hope the niners draft Josh Allen who would play SAM for us, so that we could swoop up Clark next offseason. Clark Ford Allen Buckner Thomas would be an all time unit lol Clark is a good player but i wouldn't throw the boat at somebody like him he is just very good he isn't a game changer like Mack is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Announcer Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sacks98 said: Clark is a good player but i wouldn't throw the boat at somebody like him he is just very good he isn't a game changer like Mack is. It seems like he wants $20M per year (Lawrence) money.. but IMO he's more a $13-15M type player at the moment. He's not great against the run and can disappear at times. I'd be fine with a 5 year, $70M deal... not 5 year $100M (like I think he wants). Have to let him walk for that... Edited April 17, 2019 by NFL_Announcer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 20 hours ago, NFL_Announcer said: Only problem with Clark is Wagner/Reed are free agents in 2020 as well... and Reed has looked pretty promising as a pass rusher. The 2019 draft is EXTREMELY deep with EDGE rushers (probably the deepest I've seen in my lifetime). With Wilson signing $35M per and Clark wanting Mack/Lawrence money (sorry he's not as good as either), I'm not sure Seattle pulls the trigger. I think they let him walk. If the Seahawks weren't going to keep him, it's too bad they didn't trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL_Announcer Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, showtime said: If the Seahawks weren't going to keep him, it's too bad they didn't trade him. Trades aren't always that simple. #1 - Someone would need to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder (now) - because Clark will certainly net us a 3rd compensatory given he'll likely get $15M+ going to free agency. Few teams give up 1st rounders these days during free agency/pre draft - it's usually midseason desperation trades (it seems). #2 - if someone trades him, they need to be ready to spend, and from what I've heard Clark say he wants top 10 DE money ($18-20M+) Even 3rd rounders these days are pretty highly coveted. End of day it's easier for most teams to just wait until he's a free agent, unless they are win now mode... and most of those 'win now' teams can't afford the salary he's asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, NFL_Announcer said: Trades aren't always that simple. #1 - Someone would need to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder (now) - because Clark will certainly net us a 3rd compensatory given he'll likely get $15M+ going to free agency. Few teams give up 1st rounders these days during free agency/pre draft - it's usually midseason desperation trades (it seems). #2 - if someone trades him, they need to be ready to spend, and from what I've heard Clark say he wants top 10 DE money ($18-20M+) Even 3rd rounders these days are pretty highly coveted. End of day it's easier for most teams to just wait until he's a free agent, unless they are win now mode... and most of those 'win now' teams can't afford the salary he's asking for. You're right. I was just saying it sucks to see a player like that just walk, but I guess it is what it is. It's unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 7 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: What team out there would trade a first rounder AND then pay Frank Clark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, showtime said: What team out there would trade a first rounder AND then pay Frank Clark? The Raiders are the main team that come to mind given their cap space and wealth of picks...not to mention crazy need for an edge rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Forge said: The Raiders are the main team that come to mind given their cap space and wealth of picks...not to mention crazy need for an edge rusher. The Raiders still have a lot of cap space after signing both Brown's this off-season? I didn't know that. What pick would they give the Seahawks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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