NYRaider Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: still think we could sign RB TE DE OLB CB so we can go BPA in the draft.... I'm not saying break the bank but a few vets It doesn't appear like we're going to address RB or TE in FA because we like some of the younger guys we already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, raidr4life said: You're the only one who doesn't have respect for Trubisky! Trubisky 1 Frankie 0 LOL How do you figure? In 2 season as the starter he has averaged 2700 yrds 15 Tds and 11 Ints. Get the yellow jackets out HAHAHAHAHA Trashbinski is an average at best game manager who rode an elite D to the playoffs. How is that special? Let me guess, you think Trent Dilfer is an elite QB bc he won a super bowl. Totally clueless... Edited March 16, 2019 by Frankie2Gunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I absolutely love the way our FO and Gruden have attacked this FA period. Have been on the sidelines just trying to keep up because I work too much. I was very skeptical at first with the AB situation then trade but he is no Javon Walker or JaMarcus. He has an amazing work ethic and wants to play. Then we go after more needs adding the big bodied threat at WR then safety then An OT (admitting we obviously need help with the 2 almost worse graded OTs we drafted) I like it wish we would address at least for depth purposes our biggest needs DE obviously and LB. I am very curious on how mayock attacks the draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Frankie2Gunz said: LOL How do you figure? In 2 season as the starter he has averaged 2700 yrds 15 Tds and 11 Ints. Get the yellow jackets out HAHAHAHAHA Trashbinski is an average at best game manager who rode an elite D to the playoffs. How is that special? Let me guess, you think Trent Dilfer is an elite QB bc he won a super bowl. Totally clueless... Don't throw out these garbage statistics, because year 1 he was a rookie and he clearly improved in year 2 throwing 24 tds to 12 ints went from completing 59% of his passes to 66%, plus nobody said he was special and your tired line of " let me guess if so and so won a super bowl then blah blah blah", we aren't talking about Trent Dilfer we are talking about Trubisky and he clearly took a 2nd year leap that you want to see from a young QB you called him garbage and he wasn't that, and we all saw him make play's in the playoffs and throughout the season. You're the clueless one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 9 hours ago, true2form said: This. Being competitive is all we can hope for this year. Not going to fix it all in one off-season. It's also what we have been saying every season for years. The Raiders have got to have a short term plan as well as a long term. This nonsense about "now it's a 2 year rebuild/retool" is how we got so terrible to begin with. We spend year after year heading into the draft talking about "if we can hit this year and next" every single year. First it was Reggie is a cap genius, don't question him! All that cap and 1 winning season to show for it, and a team with more holes than a pasta strainer. While I totally agree that simply being competitive would be an improvement this year, we've got to expect more eventually. And this team's amazing ability to ignore the deficiencies on the front seven in favor of a bunch of shiny offensive players, especially with Gruden as head coach, isn't going to lead to that. Just ask Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We need Cook back he was a beast atleast a 2 year deal if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, raidr4life said: We need Cook back he was a beast atleast a 2 year deal if possible Cooks market has been slow, he could be back on a manageable deal. But it seems like our coaches like Darren Waller, Carrier, Bulter, Lee Smith TEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Adrian Clayborn wouldn’t be bad Edge depth. Wonder what his price range is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: Joyner played well last season just not at an elite level but didn't he move from a FS role to more of a slot CB role? I have heard he can go between the two but is toast if you have him try to play single high. Most Rams fans have said he did not play up to the expected level last year and his average over the 2 years is top 3 money for a FS and 11th for a CB. I think he is a good player but we gave him to big of a contract for a player that regressed last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 On 15/03/2019 at 8:13 PM, Rich7sena said: It simply didn't appear edge was a priority this free agency for the Raiders. It was always going to be interesting to see what type of DE Guenther would look for this off season and how highly he values DE. If his time at the Bengals is anything to go by it would suggest he likes his defense ends to play the run first and then have a good rotation at pass rushing. It’s no coincidence that last year Irvin was designated as a pass rusher only and kept off the field on base downs. I still think we will get at least 1 vet DE in before the draft, we can’t go into the draft with only Key and Mauro. As the market slows down, I’m hoping we can get Ansah,maybe a 1 year prove it deal,who is good against the run and can pass rush. He would appear to be a good fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Dessie said: It was always going to be interesting to see what type of DE Guenther would look for this off season and how highly he values DE. If his time at the Bengals is anything to go by it would suggest he likes his defense ends to play the run first and then have a good rotation at pass rushing. It’s no coincidence that last year Irvin was designated as a pass rusher only and kept off the field on base downs. I still think we will get at least 1 vet DE in before the draft, we can’t go into the draft with only Key and Mauro. As the market slows down, I’m hoping we can get Ansah,maybe a 1 year prove it deal,who is good against the run and can pass rush. He would appear to be a good fit. This is my thought too. It seems that the bengals ie Marvin Lewis valued its pass rush up the middle, which isn’t bad in the AFC West , Mahomes is the only mobile QB so the DEs don’t need to worry about containment as much. I think we as fans want to see another big time pass rusher like Mack, but i don’t think that pass rushers are valued as much. I might be wrong, but the draft will be very illuminating on this position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 8 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: It's also what we have been saying every season for years. The Raiders have got to have a short term plan as well as a long term. This nonsense about "now it's a 2 year rebuild/retool" is how we got so terrible to begin with. We spend year after year heading into the draft talking about "if we can hit this year and next" every single year. First it was Reggie is a cap genius, don't question him! All that cap and 1 winning season to show for it, and a team with more holes than a pasta strainer. While I totally agree that simply being competitive would be an improvement this year, we've got to expect more eventually. And this team's amazing ability to ignore the deficiencies on the front seven in favor of a bunch of shiny offensive players, especially with Gruden as head coach, isn't going to lead to that. Just ask Tampa. Well yes, but when Gruden came it was a new start. This is the same for any team in the league that gets a new GM, new coaches, and new scheme's. We are beginning year two. I know it's difficult to go through rebuild after rebuild, but what choice do we have? If we get rid of Gruden, guess what will happen? This should not be a surprise to anyone at this point. Not saying anyone should like it. As for the front seven, we are obviously not finished. I for one, would not have been happy with signing just about any of the free agents available. The handful that were good, broke the bank. I also don't think any of them were true fits for our scheme. Our focus in the draft should be on getting 2 DE, 1 LB, and 1 CB for our defense. Main reason I don't think we touch QB or DT even though lots of fans are clamoring for guys at those positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, true2form said: Well yes, but when Gruden came it was a new start. This is the same for any team in the league that gets a new GM, new coaches, and new scheme's. We are beginning year two. I know it's difficult to go through rebuild after rebuild, but what choice do we have? If we get rid of Gruden, guess what will happen? This should not be a surprise to anyone at this point. Not saying anyone should like it. As for the front seven, we are obviously not finished. I for one, would not have been happy with signing just about any of the free agents available. The handful that were good, broke the bank. I also don't think any of them were true fits for our scheme. Our focus in the draft should be on getting 2 DE, 1 LB, and 1 CB for our defense. Main reason I don't think we touch QB or DT even though lots of fans are clamoring for guys at those positions. Absolutely. However, I think Gruden drafts another toy for Carr with one of the first 4 picks. If he does, I'm hoping it's Hockensen or Fant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Gannon12 said: I like it wish we would address at least for depth purposes our biggest needs DE obviously and LB. I am very curious on how mayock attacks the draft 2 Almost all of the top pass rushers were off the board before FA even started, it's almost impossible to acquire a good edge guy in FA now. I'm sure we would've loved to add a LB but the asking price on guys in FA this year was just simply too high. Barr got 5 yr/$68M, Mosley got 5 yr/$85M, and Alexander got 4 yr/$54M. I wouldn't pay that much for non-pass rushers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 21 hours ago, true2form said: This. Being competitive is all we can hope for this year. Not going to fix it all in one off-season. Not going to fix it all in one off-season, But now you're relying on absolutely crushing the draft on defense to predicate your future into 2020 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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