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Raiders sign Lamarcus Joyner

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Like it. Don’t love it. Should be able to fill the role we wanted out of Gilchrist. But it sounds like he isn’t great in single high so....that’s good. I like the idea of getting a S but I guess I’ll wait and see how this goes. 

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I think Joyner is going to help solve our "shifty receiver/back" problem. He's a cornerback converted to safety and he excels in man coverage on smaller guys. We can play him as a nickel corner in 3 safety looks and he can tackle. He can play safety in 2 safety looks with Joseph. 

We can all agree that he'll be 10 times the player Nelson was and if he can return to his 2017 form, this will be a steal, even at 10 million per.

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Happy to hear this:

He's super versatile and this makes sense a lot with Harris coming back. Our Secondary will essentially be Conley and Worley outside, Joyner in the slot with Joseph and Harris over the top. I like it.

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18 hours ago, Jerry said:


https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1105564238146424838

#Raiders' deal for S Lamarcus Joyner is four years, $42 million with $16.7 million in full guarantees by next week.

The guarantees are for 2019 and 2020, so it is basically a 2 year deal with 2 additional years where the team can really decide what to do. Bring him back or let him go without dead money...

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I like how he will play the slot a lot. Use his cover skills to our advantage. 

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10 hours ago, agarcia34 said:

I like how he will play the slot a lot. Use his cover skills to our advantage. 

And he can tackle. He can help run fits and is very aggresive/instinctive. He can blitz as well.

I think Harris can shine in the FS role if too much isn't asked of him. He actually plays the ball quite well.

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According to spotrac...His bonus (8M) is guaranteed for 2020 only the 4M salary is tied to a 2020 March date. I think you can say that he is here for the first 2 years for sure...

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59 minutes ago, Rolni said:

According to spotrac...His bonus (8M) is guaranteed for 2020 only the 4M salary is tied to a 2020 March date. I think you can say that he is here for the first 2 years for sure...

That doesn't make sense. It would be considered dead money then...

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3 hours ago, NightTrainLane said:

That doesn't make sense. It would be considered dead money then...

Yeah that's why I say it's guaranteed for 2 years not for 1 like this Austin Gaye guy wrote...

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Posted (edited)

This is what we all thought. Mostly nickel and some safety. Still leaves the door open for Harris or a draftee.

Edited by NightTrainLane

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Definitely would not rule out a S draftee is they are the best available DB come that pick. If Murphy, Greedy, etc are off the board and Adderly is sitting there at 27 I could see Gruden and co. Pulling the trigger 

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