beardown3231 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: If he’s going to play any kind of semi prominent role on offense he’s going to have to take reps from somebody. If not Gabriel then who do you think? I think there are going to be a lot of 4 WR sets (Robinson, Gabriel, Miller and Patterson) and I think he's going to get a lot of looks out of the backfield. Gabriel was too good last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Patrick Finley just tweeted that Patterson has more return TD's in Chicago than the Bears do since Hester retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The Bears were 26th in the NFL in Special Teams DVOA last season including the 31st Kickoff Return DVOA. This move goes a long way toward fixing those issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLCbear Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Love this !! I'm HUGE on having a KR specialist .. CP is not Hester (noone is) but elite nonetheless, and arguably the best returner in football .....anything Nagy is able to accomplish with him on offense is a bonus as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said: What you get with Patterson is an elite KR (where we were the worst in the league last year) as well as more potential pre-snap confusion from a personnel standpoint for the defense. The kickoff thing is huge IMO, but I’m more excited about the latter. For example, hypothetically with a personnel group in the huddle with Miller, ARob, Burton, Shaheen and Patterson on the field we could like up 5 wide or in a tight power run formation with 2 TE and A WR on one side of the line with Patterson in the backfield. The ideal defensive grouping for those formations is completely different, and until we break the huddle our opponent will be guessing. That’s an incredible advantage to have. Was coming here to say this. We had the lowest KR average last year. CP84 in the backfield with the Pats last year created a wrinkle for teams. Put 84 in motion and it opens things up horizontally as well. 84 > 15 as a 4/5 WR, 84 > 29 as a KR (arguable, but likely true, also keeps 29 more fresh for offense), 84 < 15 as a ST option (but likely helps a OLB/CB/S stay active on gameday) This is another fast weapon that can play multiple roles within the offense for nagy, while improving our returning ST, for only 5M/year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Madmike90 said: $5 million per year is a little rich but I like his fit in this offence...will be interesting to see how we use him all over the field. Yeah, but these days guys you could sign for $2 mil a year now cost $5 mil a year. He's got skills as a KR we don't now have but other than he's always been kind of a Kevin White type. Not exactly a student of the game. But if we can pull a few big plays out of him each year that help win games like his KOR helped beat us then $5 mil is a pittance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Patrick Finley just tweeted that Patterson has more return TD's in Chicago than the Bears do since Hester retired True dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Glad we have a good return man but he is more useless as receiver than Hester was and that’s saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tyty said: Glad we have a good return man but he is more useless as receiver than Hester was and that’s saying something. Yeah but they aren't paying Patterson a 4 year $40 million dollar deal to suck at WR like the Bears did for Hester either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ_11 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Madmike90 said: $5 million per year is a little rich but I like his fit in this offence...will be interesting to see how we use him all over the field. I'm with you. I wanted Patterson this off-season but didn't expect he would cost that much. That's free agency for you I suppose, everyone who gets signed early gets overpaid. But this should be a huge lift to our kick return game, and it's like a shiny new toy for Nagy, he'll use him in a number of ways on offense. Still going to have to pick up another WR along the way this off-season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, beardown3231 said: What? Patterson isn't going to hinder Gabriel's usage He will do on jet screens and especially bubble screens...with such a huge difference in size and even more so physicality Patterson makes a ton of sense to take some of those snaps...I went and watched him being used as a runner with the Pats and was shocked that a lot of the runs were just straight up the gut...dude is real physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ_11 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Madmike90 said: He will do on jet screens and especially bubble screens...with such a huge difference in size and even more so physicality Patterson makes a ton of sense to take some of those snaps...I went and watched him being used as a runner with the Pats and was shocked that a lot of the runs were just straight up the gut...dude is real physical. Fingers crossed yeah, Gabriel struggles making anyone miss in the open field, get me some Patterson on those plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This is my favorite of the new signings, mostly because of the Nagy weird play factor. Just going to go place my prop bet that CP is involved in some sort of weird passing play that involves some laterals and a D Lineman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This all about making offense versatile with players with athletic skill sets. Eliminates predictability and creates match ups. You can line up Cohen anywhere on field except O line and TE if you include wildcat looks. Same with Patterson even though they are different in not just size and long speed. Cohen can run route tree and Patterson hasn't shown that ability, but that's okay. You can isolate a player on a Cohen or Patterson and give them a simple two way go ala Patriots do with White all the time. They beat Bears with it with White on Floyd. Someone said Patterson wasn't smart. I don't know if that's true, but that's fine. It doesn't take smarts to know if guy is inside you then break outside, guy outside cut inside. That was seemingly like 70 percent of Carolina's offensive production last year with McCaffery. It works. It doesn't take smarts to return a kick/punt (well some), it doesn't take smarts to run a seam route or go, it doesn't take smarts to hit a hole on an RPO hand off with no cut back reads and it doesn't take smarts to run a fly sweep off motion. You do have to respect all those things and they are very difficult to defend versus an athletic player and Patterson is a top athlete. Excellent signing if used properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, dll2000 said: This all about making offense versatile with players with athletic skill sets. Eliminates predictability and creates match ups. You can line up Cohen anywhere on field except O line and TE if you include wildcat looks. Same with Patterson even though they are different in not just size and long speed. Cohen can run route tree and Patterson hasn't shown that ability, but that's okay. You can isolate a player on a Cohen or Patterson and give them a simple two way go ala Patriots do with White all the time. They beat Bears with it with White on Floyd. Someone said Patterson wasn't smart. I don't know if that's true, but that's fine. It doesn't take smarts to know if guy is inside you then break outside, guy outside cut inside. That was seemingly like 70 percent of Carolina's offensive production last year with McCaffery. It works. It doesn't take smarts to return a kick/punt (well some), it doesn't take smarts to run a seam route or go, it doesn't take smarts to hit a hole on an RPO hand off with no cut back reads and it doesn't take smarts to run a fly sweep off motion. You do have to respect all those things and they are very difficult to defend versus an athletic player and Patterson is a top athlete. Excellent signing if used properly. And if you want to be technical, you could line up Patterson at TE as he did have some snaps there last year (3%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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