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I'm not sure about this... Yeah, we can get him to get some pressurr/sacks... But to be an OLB in a true 3-4, you have to be able to cover at least a bit. Landrys specialty is also rushing the passer... Cant see them on the field together a lot except on subpackages where neither will be depended to cover too often. 

He's be a good option situational guy... But 10M guaranteed to a 37 year old pass rush only guy? If used correctly, he could help us out... But we need a starter at OLB, unless they plan on Correa starting and bringing in Wake as a pass rusher only. 

First move I question so far this offseason. 

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1 minute ago, ragevsuall17 said:

I'm not sure about this... Yeah, we can get him to get some pressurr/sacks... But to be an OLB in a true 3-4, you have to be able to cover at least a bit. Landrys specialty is also rushing the passer... Cant see them on the field together a lot except on subpackages where neither will be depended to cover too often. 

He's be a good option situational guy... But 10M guaranteed to a 37 year old pass rush only guy? If used correctly, he could help us out... But we need a starter at OLB, unless they plan on Correa starting and bringing in Wake as a pass rusher only. 

First move I question so far this offseason. 

We don’t run a true 3-4 🤷🏽‍♂️

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3 minutes ago, TitanRedd said:

We don’t run a true 3-4 🤷🏽‍♂️

If we're playing a 4-3,gets just call it a 4-3... Even d is an under/over variation of it. It makes Wake that de facto DE, then has Landry as the Sam, covering the TE? Is the same issue I stated above. Unless we plan on rushing 5, Having Wake and Landry on the field together pushes Landry to be primarily a coverage LBer. 

The other option is to play only 2 other "down linemen" making Wake the big end. But that's a 4-3 defense. 

- - - - Wake - Jones - Casey - - Landry 

Correa - - - Brown - - - Evans 

Right? What an I missing? 

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1 minute ago, ragevsuall17 said:

If we're playing a 4-3,gets just call it a 4-3... Even d is an under/over variation of it. It makes Wake that de facto DE, then has Landry as the Sam, covering the TE? Is the same issue I stated above. Unless we plan on rushing 5, Having Wake and Landry on the field together pushes Landry to be primarily a coverage LBer. 

The other option is to play only 2 other "down linemen" making Wake the big end. But that's a 4-3 defense. 

- - - - Wake - Jones - Casey - - Landry 

Correa - - - Brown - - - Evans 

Right? What an I missing? 

What you got it right but what I’m saying is your overthinking. We don’t run a traditional 3-4 which you just stated, okay so trust & believe the coaching staff won’t put wake in position to fail. They’ll figure out the best way to use him. Like vrabel has said on record, I don’t see us as a 3-4 team nor a 4-3 team I see us as multiple front team based on matchups. Scheme versatility is what he’s about 

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2 minutes ago, TitanRedd said:

What you got it right but what I’m saying is your overthinking. We don’t run a traditional 3-4 which you just stated, okay so trust & believe the coaching staff won’t put wake in position to fail. They’ll figure out the best way to use him. Like vrabel has said on record, I don’t see us as a 3-4 team nor a 4-3 team I see us as multiple front team based on matchups. Scheme versatility is what he’s about 

No, I get and like the philosophy of versatility... and I'm not saying Wake has no value or is not good.  But he limits our flexibility and versatility.  He does what he does... effectively... but really not much more.  

Suggs would have been a better fit IMO... he has more versatility...as does Barrett, Barr, the Smiths... which is what I was looking for in the guys I focused on... even Flowers who I didn't want to overspend on offers that versatility.  This was the same reason is why I wasn't big on Houston or the other pass rush only specialists.

You're right though... the D hasn't been the issue.  He adds pass rush ability which was our biggest weakness.  As bad as Morgan looked trying to cover, though, it's going to be "fun" watching Wake trying to cover anyone out there.

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Love him as a situational pass rusher for us. Think this means we'll draft a pass rusher early though and let Wake mentor him and Landry, because I don't see him as a three down guy at this stage in his career.

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mehhhh. i mean, fine i guess. but i don't expect much if anything from him.

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43 minutes ago, TitanRedd said:

Wake - Jones - Casey - - Landry 

Correa - - - Brown - - - Evans 

Right? What an I missing

This feels like the play on passing downs, though you’re probably running nickel without Correa on the field. Though I could also see four DL looks with Brown, Woodyard and Evans at LB. 

The more I think about it, the more I like it. In terms of pure pass rushing ability, he was the best option still available. And as we saw countless times last year, we were desperately lacking that off the edge. 

It’s not the perfect scenario, but that went out the window when every premium pass rusher was tagged.

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Regardless of his age, he's still a guy to watch out for when he's on the field. I don't think any OT looks forward to lining up against him. Hopefully the young guys grow up a lot this year but Wake should be a good rotational guy.

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1 hour ago, titans0021 said:

 

This feels like the play on passing downs, though you’re probably running nickel without Correa on the field. Though I could also see four DL looks with Brown, Woodyard and Evans at LB. 

The more I think about it, the more I like it. In terms of pure pass rushing ability, he was the best option still available. And as we saw countless times last year, we were desperately lacking that off the edge. 

It’s not the perfect scenario, but that went out the window when every premium pass rusher was tagged.

This... I imagine he receives the bulk of his work in sub packages as an edge rusher. 

 

And this his is essentially a 1 year deal. I imagine he receives all 10 mil of those guarantees this year giving the team a chance to cut bait if he’s no longer productive

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Not only are we not a traditional 3-4, we're in the nickel (usually 2-4-5) the majority of the time as well. This takes the majority of any coverage responsibility off of Wake and any OLB. Last year we had Orakpo and Morgan, neither of which can cover anything more than a flat/hook zone, so Wake is not going to be an issue in coverage. It's not like Derrick Morgan was running down the seam with TEs.

Also, Landry can play in space. He may not cover anyone 1 on 1, as we shouldn't be trying to do, but he can get out to the flat and take on RBs.

The only time we will ever see Wake in coverage is when we would have seen Morgan in coverage. Where multiple people are blitzing and he drops into the flat, most likely to handle a RB.

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45 minutes ago, TitanSS said:

Not only are we not a traditional 3-4, we're in the nickel (usually 2-4-5) the majority of the time as well. This takes the majority of any coverage responsibility off of Wake and any OLB. Last year we had Orakpo and Morgan, neither of which can cover anything more than a flat/hook zone, so Wake is not going to be an issue in coverage. It's not like Derrick Morgan was running down the seam with TEs.

Also, Landry can play in space. He may not cover anyone 1 on 1, as we shouldn't be trying to do, but he can get out to the flat and take on RBs.

The only time we will ever see Wake in coverage is when we would have seen Morgan in coverage. Where multiple people are blitzing and he drops into the flat, most likely to handle a RB.

Bingo which is why I want us to get an interior rusher next to Cassey so bad, let’s face it the passing game is so quick now you need guys that can knock the QB off his spot & disrupt timing. You can send extra help by chipping a LB or end coming off the edge 

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