htfryar Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 hours ago, canadaluvsdallas said: I hope I dont ever get to see another off-season of @DaBoys vs @Matts4313. This is brutal QFT It's to the point of the old Matts & Slam/Plan bickering. Just, ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 It's obvious Dallas FA is to use Stop Gap starters but still allow us the flexibility to draft BPA. If the Stop Gap starters prove descent enough we may re-sign for cheap. The hope is to have the draftees take their spot for 4 years or more until they are let go unless they become pro bowlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 pretty good pick up for the dirty birds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, textaz03 said: pretty good pick up for the dirty birds I'd say so. Really surprised Chicago parted with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, D82 said: I'd say so. Really surprised Chicago parted with him. I guess they weren't going to pay a RB so they got what they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, DaBoys said: I guess they weren't going to pay a RB so they got what they could. True. @flyingmonkey30 mentioned his issues as a receiving option likely factored in as well, so makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingmonkey30 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, D82 said: True. @flyingmonkey30 mentioned his issues as a receiving option likely factored in as well, so makes sense. Yeah, just knowing how Nagy’s (really Andy Reid’s) system values backs that can catch the ball and move in space, Howard wasn’t a good fit in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, flyingmonkey30 said: Yeah, just knowing how Nagy’s (really Andy Reid’s) system values backs that can catch the ball and move in space, Howard wasn’t a good fit in Chicago. Sounds like a Nagy issue TBH since Doug Pederson is from that very tree? He too values pass catching RB but is able to adapt to his Personnel when needed ala Ajayi, Blount and Adams. Not sure why Nagy couldn't but I'm glad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Nabbs4u said: Sounds like a Nagy issue TBH since Doug Pederson is from that very tree? He too values pass catching RB but is able to adapt to his Personnel when needed ala Ajayi, Blount and Adams. Not sure why Nagy couldn't but I'm glad? Like I said, Howard is due a contract. The league is split on whether RBs are worthy of 2nd deals. I guess the Bears are of the "dime a dozen" school, and after getting what they got from a 5th round pick in Howard? How can you blame them? The Cowboys will be doing the same with Zeke soon, unfortunately. The only reason we were comfortable spending a top 5 on him was to win with Romo. I highly doubt he sticks now. When you can get guys like Henry, Hunt, Kamara etc... Outside of round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: Like I said, Howard is due a contract. The league is split on whether RBs are worthy of 2nd deals. I guess the Bears are of the "dime a dozen" school, and after getting what they got from a 5th round pick in Howard? How can you blame them? The Cowboys will be doing the same with Zeke soon, unfortunately. The only reason we were comfortable spending a top 5 on him was to win with Romo. I highly doubt he sticks now. When you can get guys like Henry, Hunt, Kamara etc... Outside of round 1 I hope so!! For every Henry, Hunt, Kamara found in those rds, there have been dozens of busts over the years. I think this idea that RB's are a dime a dozen is absurd. Are there Hidden gems found here and there like every position in the NFL sure, but Legit Franchise Changing RB's like AP, Gurley, Zeke, Saquon, etc are typically found in the 1st and don't grow on trees. Just like it was for Dozens of HOF before them. Including two of your very own HOF RB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: I hope so!! For every Henry, Hunt, Kamara found in those rds, there have been dozens of busts over the years. I think this idea that RB's are a dime a dozen is absurd. Are there Hidden gems found here and there like every position in the NFL sure, but Legit Franchise Changing RB's like AP, Gurley, Zeke, Saquon, etc are typically found in the 1st and don't grow on trees. Just like it was for Dozens of HOF before them. Including two of your very own RB HOF's. I get it. Certain RBs take it to the next level, and are not easily found. It just seems every year the 2nd and 3rd round still have 2 or 3 of the top 5 RBs of the class. What other position can say this? ..TE, 1 tech NT, RB ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, DaBoys said: 35 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: I hope so!! For every Henry, Hunt, Kamara found in those rds, there have been dozens of busts over the years. I think this idea that RB's are a dime a dozen is absurd. Are there Hidden gems found here and there like every position in the NFL sure, but Legit Franchise Changing RB's like AP, Gurley, Zeke, Saquon, etc are typically found in the 1st and don't grow on trees. Just like it was for Dozens of HOF before them. Including two of your very own RB HOF's. I get it. Certain RBs take it to the next level, and are not easily found. It just seems every year the 2nd and 3rd round still have 2 or 3 of the top 5 RBs of the class. What other position can say this? ..TE, 1 tech NT, RB ... http://pfref.com/tiny/BLCsM Here's a list of the last 55 RB taken in the past 3 drafts (rds 2 thru 5). Outside of the 2017 RB class, I'm not seeing many game changers. Legit Franchise RB? Even with 2017, how many do you honestly see? 7 ,8? Its a overrated philosophy IMO because of a select few/recency bias. I'd kill to have 1 of the 4 listed above (young AP) to par with and take pressure off Wentz, kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: http://pfref.com/tiny/BLCsM Here's a list of the last 55 RB taken in the past 3 drafts (rds 2 thru 5). Outside of the 2017 RB class, I'm not seeing many game changers. Legit Franchise RB? Even with 2017, how many do you honestly see? 7 ,8? Its a overrated philosophy IMO because of a select few. I'd kill to have 1 of the 4 listed above (young AP) to par with and take pressure off Wentz, kill. Well Howard, a 5th rounder, should serve you well. His breakout game as a rookie came against us. He wasn't even the starter iirc. The starter got hurt or something and the bears plugged in the hard charging rookie. After that game he never really looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Well Howard, a 5th rounder, should serve you well. His breakout game as a rookie came against us. He wasn't even the starter iirc. The starter got hurt or something and the bears plugged in the hard charging rookie. After that game he never really looked back. That's the hope but let's be honest, anything is a upgrade over what was trotted out there last year with all of the Injuries. Eagles have been trying to fill the Westbrook/McCoy role for years taking this very approach. Failing miserably for decades because they luckily struck gold "Twice" in the past!!! It's not the norm is all I'm getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romo2bryant Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Gonna be fun when we trade lawerence for a 1 to go get Oliver and sign ziggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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