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2 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said:

No doubt, Stafford would probably be better than Brady under Belichik.  He makes that team win no matter what or who is playing there.

probably not be better is what you meant

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5 hours ago, Karnage84 said:

So let's see if I can get this right: we have a NE trained GM, a NE trained HC... we just paid a guy $90M coming from NE that played in the same NE scheme.. we just paid a CB $9M/year who played for said HC in that scheme.. and we just signed a WR from that same franchise.... but we aren't trying to import what they did in NE to Detroit? It's not going to be an exact because you've got BB (probably the greatest HC of all time) and Stafford isn't Tom Brady but it's ludicrous to think that they aren't trying to copy that model here.

We can debate whether it'll work but both guys are bringing their version of the Patriots to Detroit. They'll need instant success (hence paying Flowers big money) in order to buy more time and develop in full, but that's what they are trying to do if they are given the time.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....so cause we upgrade one guy from the patriots organization to our GM....we are modeling after them.....or he knew Patricia was a solid leader aand future coach...not just a DC...and he had first hand look...and then lucky enough a big name FA hits the market and its basically stay home (already won his ring) or get paid...and well golly my old coach is leading probably the number one suiter...one guy...and Amendola is a reliable Vet we need for a #3/#4 when a  guy gets hurt....should they of brought guys that have never seen the system? They aren't copying anyone....

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9 hours ago, NFL_Fan said:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....so cause we upgrade one guy from the patriots organization to our GM....we are modeling after them.....or he knew Patricia was a solid leader aand future coach...not just a DC...and he had first hand look...and then lucky enough a big name FA hits the market and its basically stay home (already won his ring) or get paid...and well golly my old coach is leading probably the number one suiter...one guy...and Amendola is a reliable Vet we need for a #3/#4 when a  guy gets hurt....should they of brought guys that have never seen the system? They aren't copying anyone....

It has been written in several different articles when Patricia was hired about his relationship with BQ from their days with the Pats. Quinn inherited Jim Caldwell and stuck with him until he felt that the team was not going to move forward. He then went and got his guy coming from a shared philosophy. Both guys may have their unique take on it but the basis is from their time in NE. Flowers specifically said that his relationship with Patricia was a factor in coming. Opportunity and $90M also don't hurt. Knowing the coach and how you fit in does have some weight. This is also based out of their shared time in NE. These are fairly obvious connections. People look to model successful organizations in any field while adapting things to their own circumstances and attempt to improve. Sometimes this can work because the systems are easily transferrable (ex. restaurant franchises) while every one that might try and copy the "Patriots Way" doesn't have BB as GM/HC and Tom Brady as QB.

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9 hours ago, NFL_Fan said:

probably not be better is what you meant

No, BB made Matt Cassell and Jacoby Brissett put up Brady like stats.  I think he makes that team. The players benefit from the system.

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57 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

No, BB made Matt Cassell and Jacoby Brissett put up Brady like stats.  I think he makes that team. The players benefit from the system.

Imagine Stafford's toughness and arm strength with that system. He'd be the second best QB that BB has had.

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