The Gnat Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 There's a bunch to get through. Nothing too shocking in 2019, but 2020 has some pretty big changes coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I hate the MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanrick Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The minimum three-hitter rule for pitchers shocks me. I've read the MLBPA didn't agree so maybe this gets scrapped before next year. That's a huge change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, bigbadbuff23835 said: I hate the MLB. Which of the rule changes do you hate? They seem like good changes to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, mse326 said: Which of the rule changes do you hate? They seem like good changes to me. The 3 batter rule is absolutely horrendous. If that gets scraped I’m good with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, bigbadbuff23835 said: The 3 batter rule is absolutely horrendous. If that gets scraped I’m good with everything else. The rest of the changes I'm fine with, but I have no idea why the MLBPA would negotiate any of this. Sends the wrong message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigbadbuff23835 said: The 3 batter rule is absolutely horrendous. If that gets scraped I’m good with everything else. Nah, I like it. 4 or 5 pitching changes in an inning because a pitcher is incapable of pitching to an opposite handed batter is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: The rest of the changes I'm fine with, but I have no idea why the MLBPA would negotiate any of this. Sends the wrong message. Can you say "Labor stoppage" And yeah, the ******* rules committee and Manfred are determined to kill the sport. Attitude among a lot of people at league office is that they have no ******* idea how to really grow the game beyond "MAKE IT FASTER". Contracting the September expansion while also limiting pitching changes is an overwhelming negative for the players, it kills a lot of guys potential careers and potential earnings that they'll never even get a shot. You're literally just begging for more people to get hurt now. Get ready for a hard clock on games and innings. It's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Can you say "Labor stoppage" And yeah, the ******* rules committee and Manfred are determined to kill the sport. Attitude among a lot of people at league office is that they have no ******* idea how to really grow the game beyond "MAKE IT FASTER". Contracting the September expansion while also limiting pitching changes is an overwhelming negative for the players, it kills a lot of guys potential careers and potential earnings that they'll never even get a shot. You're literally just begging for more people to get hurt now. Get ready for a hard clock on games and innings. It's coming. The game does need to get faster. It has steadily increased over the last 30 years where each game on average is over 3 hours compared to 2 and a half 30 years ago and 2 hours 40 - 50 years ago. There has been hardly any changes in commercials or breaks surprisingly over that time period. The vast majority of this time is in-inning. Pitchers take too long to pitch, batters step out far too often, too many pitching changes all lead to a game that's just too long and seemingly unnecessary so. No one has over 3 hours to sit and watch a game at home. Everyone wants to say they are "killing the sport" but the sport hasn't been like this till very recently. That being said I don't think the time the game takes is the biggest issue plaguing baseball right now but the lack of any personality & terrible marketing to younger generations has been the real reason for baseballs decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Can you say "Labor stoppage" And yeah, the ******* rules committee and Manfred are determined to kill the sport. Attitude among a lot of people at league office is that they have no ******* idea how to really grow the game beyond "MAKE IT FASTER". Contracting the September expansion while also limiting pitching changes is an overwhelming negative for the players, it kills a lot of guys potential careers and potential earnings that they'll never even get a shot. You're literally just begging for more people to get hurt now. Get ready for a hard clock on games and innings. It's coming. Yikes. I hadn't seen that part yet. I wondered why the Players would have negotiatied the 3 batter rule, which will put a whole lot of LOOGYs on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, hrubes20 said: Yikes. I hadn't seen that part yet. I wondered why the Players would have negotiatied the 3 batter rule, which will put a whole lot of LOOGYs on the street. But for every LOOGY that leaves a player that can pitch to both moves in. It's zero sum from a players perspective. If anything a positive in that it favors ability (being able to pitch to both hands) over accident (which hand happens to be your dominant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 RIP Left Handed Bullpen Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 https://www.mlb.com/news/how-3-batter-minimum-will-change-baseball Interesting article on how the 3 Batter will/wont change and about how the LOOGY is already on it's way out prior to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Contracting the September expansion while also limiting pitching changes is an overwhelming negative for the players, it kills a lot of guys potential careers and potential earnings that they'll never even get a shot. Limiting pitching changes is a zero sum (see my above post). The limiting of September expansion I like but it makes no sense to me to change the rules right as playoff pushes are beginning. With that said while it takes away an opportunity for some lower guys to surprise to get a closer look it again doesn't change the roster size. If that player loses out then a different player gains. It harms SOME players and HELPS others. It doesn't help or hurt PLAYERS as a whole. No one is making their career as just a September call up year after year. In fact the rule changes also increase the size of rosters by one. So there will be more players than before. The rule changes as a whole are benefit to players as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, mse326 said: But for every LOOGY that leaves a player that can pitch to both moves in. It's zero sum from a players perspective. If anything a positive in that it favors ability (being able to pitch to both hands) over accident (which hand happens to be your dominant). I'm speaking money-wise, of course. A LOOGY would still command a couple million annually. They won't anymore, and will likely find themselves without a job. Yes, that means an open spot for a AAA reliever that may not have previously had a roster spot, but he'll get paid $500K. Even more likely is that several AAA type relievers are shuffled in and out over the course of the year. Teams are scaling back on money for relievers in general, so it's not like the lost LOOGY salary is magically going to find its way to other relievers that are capable of getting both sides out. It's just not something that a Player's Union would willingly accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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