TheOnlyThing Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 In just over 14 months since he took over as GM, before his second draft class has even been selected, and with another training camp to come that may well result in additional moves, (as set forth below) 36 players (by my count) who were on the roster Brian Gutekunst inherited from his predecessor are no longer with the Green Bay Packers organization. Gute truly is remaking the Packers in accordance with his own vision of what a roster should look like. QB = CALLAHAN, HUNDLEY RB = KERRIDGE, MAYS, MONTGOMERY, RIPKOWSKI WR = M. CLARK, COBB, JANIS, NELSON TE = BYRD, KENDRICKS**, RODGERS OL = EVANS, MURPHY DL = DIAL OLB = BIEGEL, BROOKS, MATTHEWS, ODOM, PERRY ILB = J. THOMAS, RYAN CB = D. BROWN, HAWKINS, HOUSE**, PIPKINS, RANDALL, ROLLINS SAFETY = BRICE, BURNETT, HHCD, EVANS, WHITEHEAD P = VOGEL LS = GOODE ** These players are free agents who could possibly be re-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Yeah .. he ain't messing around with Ted's guys. Hope he can part with his own if it comes time to do it. Well overdue on some of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Yeah .. he ain't messing around with Ted's guys. Hope he can part with his own if it comes time to do it. Well overdue on some of these guys. I believe that to be true but Gutey also has a new HC and DC change that TT didn’t have to go through. Edited March 20, 2019 by Arthur Penske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: QB = CALLAHAN, HUNDLEY RB = KERRIDGE, MAYS, MONTGOMERY, RIPKOWSKI WR = M. CLARK, COBB, JANIS, NELSON, PEARSON, YANCEY TE = BYRD, KENDRICKS, RODGERS OL = EVANS, MURPHY, DAY, JOHN, AMICHIA DL = DIAL, LUNSFORD OLB = BIEGEL, BROOKS, MATTHEWS, ODOM, PERRY ILB = J. THOMAS, RYAN, TALLEY, A.THOMAS CB = D. BROWN, HAWKINS, HOUSE, PIPKINS, RANDALL, ROLLINS, GOODSON, WATERS, PRINGLE SAFETY = BRICE, BURNETT, HHCD, EVANS, WHITEHEAD P = VOGEL, SCHUM LS = GOODE, PEPPER, TRINER I've added more names to the list from the final roster of the 2017 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 We've got rid of some bottom roster fodder (like every off-season for every team in NFL history) and let our old FAs leave. Not sure outside of Randall or HHCD we're seeing anything that Ted wouldn't have done. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: We've got rid of some bottom roster fodder (like every off-season for every team in NFL history) and let our old FAs leave. Not sure outside of Randall or HHCD we're seeing anything that Ted wouldn't have done. Mostly true. However as for our DB group I think if TT was still in charge probably half of them would still be on the roster by now. Gute really purged this area of the team. 14 players gone in 2 years. Our DB group is completely unrecognisable from the last TT roster. Edited March 20, 2019 by Chili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 "Amazing" is not the word I would use to describe it considering our record last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Of the guys you mentioned, how many of them played at least 25% of the offensive or defensive snaps in any of the last 3 seasons? You're literally praising Gute for something he should already be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: We've got rid of some bottom roster fodder (like every off-season for every team in NFL history) and let our old FAs leave. Not sure outside of Randall or HHCD we're seeing anything that Ted wouldn't have done. No kidding. I don't know TOT can sit here and complain about bottom of the roster turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: We've got rid of some bottom roster fodder (like every off-season for every team in NFL history) and let our old FAs leave. Not sure outside of Randall or HHCD we're seeing anything that Ted wouldn't have done. Hundley, Montgomery, Ripkowski, (Cobb or Nelson), Murphy, Perry, Biegel, Matthews, Ryan, Rollins, Hawkins, Pipkins, Brice, Whitehead ... among others, all stand an excellence chance of still being on the roster if the guy who brought them to Green Bay had not been replaced 14 months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, TheOnlyThing said: Hundley, Montgomery, Ripkowski, (Cobb or Nelson), Murphy, Perry, Biegel, Matthews, Ryan, Rollins, Hawkins, Pipkins, Brice, Whitehead ... among others, all stand an excellence chance of still being on the roster if the guy who brought them to Green Bay had not been replaced 14 months ago. Based on what? Your preconceived opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: No kidding. I don't know TOT can sit here and complain about bottom of the roster turnover. Complain? Who is complaining about Gute turning over the roster? The only ones I can see complaining about Gute's ongoing roster purge are the ever dwindling number of folks who still believe the prior GM's "drafting record ... stands up as well as any" other NFL GM between 2011 and 2017. I think most Packer fans understand that Gute inherited a roster that badly needed an infusion of talent and thus accept his decisions to move on from, among others, the starting TE, RB, FB, LG, 2 of the 3 top WRs, 2 starting OLBs, 1 starting ILB, 4 of the top 5 CBs, and 4 of the top 5 Safeties he inherited. Gotta feeling Gute is not done either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: Hundley, Montgomery, Ripkowski, (Cobb or Nelson), Murphy, Perry, Biegel, Matthews, Ryan, Rollins, Hawkins, Pipkins, Brice, Whitehead ... among others, all stand an excellence chance of still being on the roster if the guy who brought them to Green Bay had not been replaced 14 months ago. Hundley is a better backup QB than Kizer and the entire move surrounding this swap was bad for the team. Who even knows with Montgomery. That was a very strange spot to begin with. Ripkowski should have been on the team. There were several instances last year where Kendricks' hurt us when asked to play H-back. Are you saying you feel like one of Cobb/Nelson should have been on the team going into the 2019/2020 season? How do you feel that way when both were FAs? Are you telling me that you would rather have Anthony Cole on the roster than Kyle Murphy? Perry may well have gotten another chance. I just don't know how you say authoritatively that you would rather have 3 million in cap this year than Perry without seeing how he plays and if he can get healthy. In the case of Biegel I'll ask, are you sure you would rather have Brady Sheldon on the roster than Biegel, even acknowledging the lack of scheme fit? Matthews was a Free Agent, it's insane to think he had an "excellent chance" of being on the roster. At best that was a coin flip, and alternatively I'll ask the question, Clay Matthews or 5 million in cap space? Which will be more valuable this season. Time will tell. Rollins was cooked and probably wouldn't have been on the roster, but again, we have Natrell Jamerson on the roster at CB taking camp body spots. Does it matter which guy is in that spot? Same deal with Pipkins. Why do you care about the camp bodies? Brice got his chance to try and it didn't work. TT moved on from McMillian. I don't know why you would assume he wouldn't move on from Brice? And again, Tray Matthews, Jason Thompson and Raven Greene are all on this roster for depth at safety. What's the issue with Brice having that roster spot over any of those guys? Same with Whitehead. Why do you care that the bottom of the roster is getting churned? It got churned under TT too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just pulling two random years. 2013/2015 active rosters. QB: Rodgers, Wallace, Tolzien, Flynn/Rodgers, Tolzien RB: Starks, Lacy, Kuhn, M. Harris, Hill, Bell/Starks, Lacy, Kuhn, A. Harris, Crockett, Ripkowski TE: Finley, Quarless, Taylor, Stoneburner, Bostick/Rodgers, Quarless, Backman, Perillo WR: Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Boykin, White, Ross, Harper/Nelson, Adams, Cobb, Jones, Montgomery, Abbrederis, Janis OT: Bakhtiari, Newhouse, Barclay, Sherrod, Bulaga/Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Barclay, Walker, OG: Sitton, Lang, Van Roten, Taylor/Sitton, Lang, Taylor OC: EDS/Linsley, Tretter ++++++ The Packers moved on from Wallace, Flynn, M. Marris, Hill, Bell, Finley*, Taylor, Stoneburner, Boykin, White, Ross, Harper, Newhouse, Sherrod, Van Roten, and EDS That's just on offense, and a very good to great offense over those years. You could make an argument that they only really swapped one starter (EDS for Linsley) but they also had a relatively young offense with good players at pretty much every spot. ++++ TLDR, a long list of players that got churned on the bottom of the roster doesn't mean anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) I could see Ted keeping Jordy and Damarious Randall, maybe one of Perry/Matthews this year, but I think most of these expiring contracts were inevitable. When your team is bad, your roster is gonna do some musical chairs like it did in 2018. Edited March 20, 2019 by Gopackgonerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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