BayRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, raidr4life said: If Giants want Haskins they will. They don’t and never did imo. Haskins is really overrated. I have him going 15 to the Redskins in my final mock that I haven’t released yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Right!? I turn in to an even bigger football freak when the draft is here. I'll watch round 1 with my buds, but rounds 2-7 I have to be by myself. No one I know cares/knows enough to watch the other rounds without being a major distraction. I take it all in and book myself off from friends, the GF and pretty much everything else haha. Very similar. I'm in the UK and teach so I usually tape the 1st round, get up super early on Friday to watch it before work, have a power nap then get my drink on to watch day 2 on my own. Usually fall asleep halfway through round 3. Up ready for day 3, where I try to avoid any responsibilities or social activity of any kind! This year it falls in the holidays so I'll stay up for the first time to watch day 1? Can't wait! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Other users were referencing it to prove to me that Oliver > Williams, I've never said mock drafts were legit. You used at an example to prove your point as well with 2.0, hence me quoting with you mock 3.0. Mocks shouldn’t prove anything. I’m firmly in the Williams>Oliver camp but Oliver being taken at 21 or whatever in 2.0 shouldn’t be a point in your favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, big_palooka said: That's not even true. I have Oliver 1b to Williams 1a. Worth a top 5 pick. Which as the draft nears, it is sounding like he has a chance to be a top 5 pick. Then there's you..... Oliver can't beat CFL/XFL backups but he's my #4DT. How does that make any sense? Because he graded out poorly last year and didn't dominate like he was supposed too against fringe D1 competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, CaliforniaKid7 said: You used at an example to prove your point as well with 2.0, hence me quoting with you mock 3.0. Mocks shouldn’t prove anything. I’m firmly in the Williams>Oliver camp but Oliver being taken at 21 or whatever in 2.0 shouldn’t be a point in your favor. I agree I was trying to say the same thing to another user... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, big_palooka said: I like Gary bottom of round 1. I'll take that risk/reward there. It's insane that Winovich is a 2nd rounder and Gary might go top 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: IIRC the Michigan system used him in more of a contain type role where he was supposed to eat blocks to free up their backers to make plays on the ball. Meh not on obvious pass plays tho he still loses 1 on 1 vs ot’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, NYRaider said: Remember when @Frankie2Gunz & @big_palooka doubted Williams historic statistics. I posted the draft guide numbers and they referenced an article with only 13 games played to disprove those numbers. Good times. These two geniuses apparently have more data and knowledge than NFL teams, why aren’t you guys running an organization by now? You crack me up. Find one post stating that I have ever said Williams isn't one of the top prospects in this draft. Dude is a stud and I have never doubted that. You're grasping at straws here LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, BayRaider said: They don’t and never did imo. Haskins is really overrated. I have him going 15 to the Redskins in my final mock that I haven’t released yet. Someone always trades up for a QB you have him overrated some teams might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: You crack me up. Find one post stating that I have ever said Williams isn't one of the top prospects in this draft. Dude is a stud and I have never doubted that. You're grasping at straws here LOL You think Ed Oliver is on the same level as Quinnen Williams. Oliver is a Mo Hurst level prospect and Williams is an Aaron Donald level prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, raidr4life said: Someone always trades up for a QB you have him overrated some teams might not. It only takes one team to like a player for him to be over drafted. There's a good chance that Daniel Jones is a top 15 pick now, QB's always go higher than they should because it's a QB driven league now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Meh not on obvious pass plays tho he still loses 1 on 1 vs ot’s His physical tools are off the chart if you take him early you have to hope that you can coach him up. A number of top pass rushers were meh in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: You think Ed Oliver is on the same level as Quinnen Williams. Oliver is a Mo Hurst level prospect and Williams is an Aaron Donald level prospect. Oliver is not even a Hurst level prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, raidr4life said: Oliver is not even a Hurst level prospect. Oliver's athletic numbers were good but PJ Hall is actually a better athlete than him and was more productive in college. Long term give me PJ over Oliver any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, NYRaider said: It's insane that Winovich is a 2nd rounder and Gary might go top 10. I'm still surprised when people say us taking him with our second is too high. The guy is going to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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