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22 hours ago, Kiwibrown said:

How does everyone rank the strength of each organization?

At some the point the tools around a guy effects his play, whether it is oline, skill players or defense. 

The colts and san deigo would be at the bottom of the pile by a wide margin imo.

Depends. For instance Brady's had the best coaching but you could also argue that by and large he's generally succeeded with weaker than the mean skill position talent. Meanwhile Manning's had 4 different head coaches, but he's also had far and away the best skill talent to support him. 

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On 4/8/2019 at 1:24 AM, Bearerofnews said:

Rivers lags way behind? Based on what exactly? His comp% is same as Brady and .4 less than Rodgers. His YPA is better than some and there with others. His td% is .19 under Brees. His int% is .19 higher than Peyton. His passer rating is 4.3 under Brady. Id say those are all relatively close. Especially considering unlike 3 of them, Rivers did it in differing situations (4 diff head coaches). 

He is lagging way behind. He's clearly the odd one out, he's not even close to the others. You act like 4.3 passer rating points over the course of over a decade is not an enormous difference. Brees, Brady, and Peyton have seasons that vary enormously, but the average values regress to a representative value of their careers that is fairly close. 4.3 passer rating is HUGE. Peyton's passer rating 04'-15' is the highest among the three of the aforementioned players, but is still 2 full points below Rodgers. Rodgers has relatively huge efficiency stats compared to the other three, represented as values over a decade or so. The difference between everybody else and Rivers is over double that.  Rivers is:

tied for last in CMP%

last in TD%

last in INT%

last in TDs/season

last in INTs/season

last in yards/season

last in passer rating

The ONLY area he is not last, or tied for last is in Y/A. And if you compare the composite rankings of anybody else, it's dramatically better. Hence, "lagging way behind." The only reason his INT% is that close with Peyton's is because Peyton played without a functional body for a year and spiked his INT%, it is otherwise 2.19%. But I don't think you understand how significant these differences are. Comparing River's to the next worst efficiency stat:

Rivers is 11.4% more likely to throw an interception than Brees on any given play. 

Rivers is 3.44% less likely to throw a touchdown on any given play than Brees. 

Rivers' passer rating above the average over the time period, is 28.6% lower than Brady's. 

And again, he's right there Y/A wise, so that's the exception. 

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On 4/6/2019 at 6:17 PM, sammymvpknight said:

Passer rating benefits QBs who take sacks versus throw incompletions. Brees, Brady, and Manning are very good in this regard...Wilson, Rodgers, and Rivers are not. 

That's why ANY/A is a superior stat to passer rating, as it accounts for sacks and sack yardage. Passer rating also overemphasizes completion percentage (both within the comp% factor and the YPA factor), which is another of its flaws.

Both passer rating and ANY/A have positive correlations to team wins, offensive points and offensive yards, but ANY/A has the stronger correlation of the two.

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3 hours ago, childofpudding said:

That's why ANY/A is a superior stat to passer rating, as it accounts for sacks and sack yardage. Passer rating also overemphasizes completion percentage (both within the comp% factor and the YPA factor), which is another of its flaws.

Both passer rating and ANY/A have positive correlations to team wins, offensive points and offensive yards, but ANY/A has the stronger correlation of the two.

Why would it be a problem that it emphasizes CMP%? Even if you arent racking up a ton of yardage, completing passes at a high rate still still usually indicates a high level of effectiveness. You only need to average 3.5 yards/play after all. 

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4 hours ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said:

Why would it be a problem that it emphasizes CMP%? Even if you arent racking up a ton of yardage, completing passes at a high rate still still usually indicates a high level of effectiveness. You only need to average 3.5 yards/play after all. 

I said it overemphasizes it.

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1 hour ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said:

semantics. Obviously it is a matter of the extent to which it is emphasized. I don't see any reason to believe it isn't emphasized a suitable amount. 

The difference between emphasized and overemphasized isn't semantics, but whatever. It's off-point so I'm not going to belabor that part of the discussion. 

Take a look at every team's season over the last 20 years (which is what I did). The correlation between completion percentage and points scored is much weaker than YPA and points scored, or TD% and points scored. Completion percentage is important, but not nearly as much as the other two. Also, the correlation between ANY/A and points scored is much stronger than for passer rating and points scored. Here's a link to get started if you'd like to replicate this: http://pfref.com/tiny/x7UcC

Also, I'm not exactly sure what you did to get the standardized statistics or why you're under the impression that it's that complicated. It's fairly simple. Get a QB's regular season cumulative stats from 2004-present, divide by games played (or games started, whatever you prefer) and multiply by 16. Efficiency numbers are easy to calculate from there if you know the basics of using spreadsheets. I don't really get the value in doing it, but to each his own.

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2 hours ago, childofpudding said:

The difference between emphasized and overemphasized isn't semantics, but whatever. It's off-point so I'm not going to belabor that part of the discussion. 

Not in that context. It was simply a matter of determining how much emphasis is too much emphasis for that, you saying "oh well I used the word 'overemphasis'" holds absolutely no value because it is all relative and redundant. 

2 hours ago, childofpudding said:

Take a look at every team's season over the last 20 years (which is what I did). The correlation between completion percentage and points scored is much weaker than YPA and points scored, or TD% and points scored. Completion percentage is important, but not nearly as much as the other two. Also, the correlation between ANY/A and points scored is much stronger than for passer rating and points scored.

Well that's fair I guess. 

2 hours ago, childofpudding said:

Also, I'm not exactly sure what you did to get the standardized statistics or why you're under the impression that it's that complicated. It's fairly simple. Get a QB's regular season cumulative stats from 2004-present, divide by games played (or games started, whatever you prefer) and multiply by 16. Efficiency numbers are easy to calculate from there if you know the basics of using spreadsheets. I don't really get the value in doing it, but to each his own.

It isn't complicated. I never said it was complicated nor did I imply that it was complicated. But doing this for 15 Qbs would be extremely time consuming by hand, doing all of those comoputations you mentioned, typing up the results and computing the efficiency stats and wriiting them down as you go for 15 Qbs would take forever. I made a means to simply type in the values and instantly get all of this results printed out in exactly the format and verbatim that you want it. What you described would just be the computation for one stat for one QB, it would be grueling to do that ~75 times for all of these standardized values, and that's without any of the efficiency stats. 

I have no idea why this would have no value, and others seem to appreciate it. 

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3 hours ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said:

Not in that context. It was simply a matter of determining how much emphasis is too much emphasis for that, you saying "oh well I used the word 'overemphasis'" holds absolutely no value because it is all relative and redundant. 

Well that's fair I guess. 

It isn't complicated. I never said it was complicated nor did I imply that it was complicated. But doing this for 15 Qbs would be extremely time consuming by hand, doing all of those comoputations you mentioned, typing up the results and computing the efficiency stats and wriiting them down as you go for 15 Qbs would take forever. I made a means to simply type in the values and instantly get all of this results printed out in exactly the format and verbatim that you want it. What you described would just be the computation for one stat for one QB, it would be grueling to do that ~75 times for all of these standardized values, and that's without any of the efficiency stats. 

I have no idea why this would have no value, and others seem to appreciate it. 

Hey dude, apologies if I came off sounding condescending, wasnt my intent, was just late when I posted. Later this morning I'll post on how you cpuld do this very quickly. Shouldnt be time consuming at all

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1 hour ago, childofpudding said:

Hey dude, apologies if I came off sounding condescending, wasnt my intent, was just late when I posted. Later this morning I'll post on how you cpuld do this very quickly. Shouldnt be time consuming at all

So, do this search on profootballreference.com: http://pfref.com/tiny/Wxb6g

Export to CSV for Excel and do comma delimited.

Divide completions, attempts, yards, TDs and INTs by games and multiply by 16.

Profit.

Here's the list of all QBs who have thrown for at least 100 TDs since 2004, with standardized numbers to the right, sorted by passer rating:

Player G Cmp Att Cmp% Yds YPA TD TD% Int INT% Rate Sk Yds Cmp/16 Att/16 Yds/16 TD/16 INT/16
Aaron Rodgers\RodgAa00 158 3525 5433 64.88 42615 7.84 337 6.20% 79 1.45% 103.5 403 2614 357.0 550.2 4315.4 34.1 8.0
Peyton Manning\MannPe00 169 3992 5988 66.67 46986 7.85 372 6.21% 141 2.35% 101.2 176 1113 377.9 566.9 4448.4 35.2 13.3
Russell Wilson\WilsRu00 112 2095 3261 64.24 25624 7.86 196 6.01% 63 1.93% 100.3 299 1952 299.3 465.9 3660.6 28.0 9.0
Drew Brees\BreeDr00 236 6046 8874 68.13 68824 7.76 491 5.53% 202 2.28% 100.1 348 2443 409.9 601.6 4666.0 33.3 13.7
Tom Brady\BradTo00 221 5049 7831 64.47 60281 7.70 448 5.72% 133 1.70% 99.9 369 2319 365.5 567.0 4364.2 32.4 9.6
Tony Romo\RomoTo00 127 2810 4304 65.29 33892 7.87 244 5.67% 114 2.65% 97.2 246 1664 354.0 542.2 4269.9 30.7 14.4
Philip Rivers\RivePh00 208 4501 6970 64.58 54508 7.82 373 5.35% 177 2.54% 95.7 408 2476 346.2 536.2 4192.9 28.7 13.6
Kirk Cousins\CousKi00 73 1756 2633 66.69 20010 7.60 125 4.75% 61 2.32% 95.5 142 1067 384.9 577.1 4385.8 27.4 13.4
Matt Ryan\RyanMa00 174 4052 6201 65.34 46720 7.53 295 4.76% 133 2.14% 94.9 321 2130 372.6 570.2 4296.1 27.1 12.2
Ben Roethlisberger\RoetBe00 214 4582 7115 64.4 55639 7.82 358 5.03% 187 2.63% 94.2 498 3294 342.6 532.0 4159.9 26.8 14.0
Kurt Warner*\WarnKu00 66 1487 2291 64.91 17085 7.46 102 4.45% 62 2.71% 90.8 144 937 360.5 555.4 4141.8 24.7 15.0
Matt Schaub\SchaMa00 92 2009 3121 64.37 23894 7.66 129 4.13% 83 2.66% 90.3 167 1153 349.4 542.8 4155.5 22.4 14.4
Donovan McNabb\McNaDo00 97 1963 3257 60.27 24225 7.44 147 4.51% 68 2.09% 89.6 227 1468 323.8 537.2 3995.9 24.2 11.2
Andrew Luck\LuckAn00 86 2000 3290 60.79 23671 7.19 171 5.20% 83 2.52% 89.5 174 1124 372.1 612.1 4403.9 31.8 15.4
Derek Carr\CarrDe02 78 1759 2800 62.82 18739 6.69 122 4.36% 54 1.93% 88.8 142 858 360.8 574.4 3843.9 25.0 11.1
Andy Dalton\DaltAn00 120 2443 3921 62.31 28100 7.17 188 4.79% 104 2.65% 88.8 241 1489 325.7 522.8 3746.7 25.1 13.9
Matthew Stafford\StafMa00 141 3372 5405 62.39 38526 7.13 237 4.38% 129 2.39% 88.4 329 2105 382.6 613.3 4371.7 26.9 14.6
Carson Palmer\PalmCa00 181 3933 6286 62.57 46131 7.34 294 4.68% 184 2.93% 88.2 340 2364 347.7 555.7 4077.9 26.0 16.3
Alex Smith\SmitAl03 161 3050 4892 62.35 33702 6.89 190 3.88% 100 2.04% 87.2 406 2305 303.1 486.2 3349.3 18.9 9.9
Ryan Tannehill\TannRy00 88 1829 2911 62.83 20434 7.02 123 4.23% 75 2.58% 87 248 1885 332.5 529.3 3715.3 22.4 13.6
Cam Newton\NewtCa00 122 2307 3859 59.78 28287 7.33 181 4.69% 107 2.77% 86.5 285 2156 302.6 506.1 3709.8 23.7 14.0
Jay Cutler\CutlJa00 153 3048 4920 61.95 35133 7.14 227 4.61% 160 3.25% 85.3 322 2035 318.7 514.5 3674.0 23.7 16.7
Sam Bradford\BradSa00 83 1855 2967 62.52 19449 6.56 103 3.47% 61 2.06% 84.5 196 1371 357.6 572.0 3749.2 19.9 11.8
Brett Favre*\FavrBr00 109 2340 3706 63.14 26192 7.07 162 4.37% 127 3.43% 84.4 158 1089 343.5 544.0 3844.7 23.8 18.6
Eli Manning\MannEl00 230 4801 7963 60.29 55915 7.02 360 4.52% 239 3.00% 84.1 405 2823 334.0 553.9 3889.7 25.0 16.6
Joe Flacco\FlacJo00 163 3499 5670 61.71 38245 6.75 212 3.74% 136 2.40% 84.1 333 2360 343.5 556.6 3754.1 20.8 13.3
Jake Delhomme\DelhJa00 79 1394 2346 59.42 16814 7.17 103 4.39% 78 3.32% 82.2 136 1029 282.3 475.1 3405.4 20.9 15.8
Michael Vick\VickMi00 93 1439 2508 57.38 17834 7.11 110 4.39% 73 2.91% 82 244 1447 247.6 431.5 3068.2 18.9 12.6
Matt Hasselbeck\HassMa00 122 2393 3955 60.51 26887 6.80 158 3.99% 117 2.96% 81.8 247 1584 313.8 518.7 3526.2 20.7 15.3
Kyle Orton\OrtoKy00 82 1586 2667 59.47 17737 6.65 100 3.75% 68 2.55% 81.2 164 1009 309.5 520.4 3460.9 19.5 13.3
Ryan Fitzpatrick\FitzRy00 126 2456 4074 60.28 27714 6.80 176 4.32% 140 3.44% 80.7 231 1237 311.9 517.3 3519.2 22.3 17.8
Blake Bortles\BortBl00 73 1542 2602 59.26 17384 6.68 101 3.88% 73 2.81% 80.6 193 1146 338.0 570.3 3810.2 22.1 16.0
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2 hours ago, childofpudding said:

So, do this search on profootballreference.com: http://pfref.com/tiny/Wxb6g

Export to CSV for Excel and do comma delimited.

Divide completions, attempts, yards, TDs and INTs by games and multiply by 16.

Profit.

Here's the list of all QBs who have thrown for at least 100 TDs since 2004, with standardized numbers to the right, sorted by passer rating:

Player G Cmp Att Cmp% Yds YPA TD TD% Int INT% Rate Sk Yds Cmp/16 Att/16 Yds/16 TD/16 INT/16
Aaron Rodgers\RodgAa00 158 3525 5433 64.88 42615 7.84 337 6.20% 79 1.45% 103.5 403 2614 357.0 550.2 4315.4 34.1 8.0
Peyton Manning\MannPe00 169 3992 5988 66.67 46986 7.85 372 6.21% 141 2.35% 101.2 176 1113 377.9 566.9 4448.4 35.2 13.3
Russell Wilson\WilsRu00 112 2095 3261 64.24 25624 7.86 196 6.01% 63 1.93% 100.3 299 1952 299.3 465.9 3660.6 28.0 9.0
Drew Brees\BreeDr00 236 6046 8874 68.13 68824 7.76 491 5.53% 202 2.28% 100.1 348 2443 409.9 601.6 4666.0 33.3 13.7
Tom Brady\BradTo00 221 5049 7831 64.47 60281 7.70 448 5.72% 133 1.70% 99.9 369 2319 365.5 567.0 4364.2 32.4 9.6
Tony Romo\RomoTo00 127 2810 4304 65.29 33892 7.87 244 5.67% 114 2.65% 97.2 246 1664 354.0 542.2 4269.9 30.7 14.4
Philip Rivers\RivePh00 208 4501 6970 64.58 54508 7.82 373 5.35% 177 2.54% 95.7 408 2476 346.2 536.2 4192.9 28.7 13.6
Kirk Cousins\CousKi00 73 1756 2633 66.69 20010 7.60 125 4.75% 61 2.32% 95.5 142 1067 384.9 577.1 4385.8 27.4 13.4
Matt Ryan\RyanMa00 174 4052 6201 65.34 46720 7.53 295 4.76% 133 2.14% 94.9 321 2130 372.6 570.2 4296.1 27.1 12.2
Ben Roethlisberger\RoetBe00 214 4582 7115 64.4 55639 7.82 358 5.03% 187 2.63% 94.2 498 3294 342.6 532.0 4159.9 26.8 14.0
Kurt Warner*\WarnKu00 66 1487 2291 64.91 17085 7.46 102 4.45% 62 2.71% 90.8 144 937 360.5 555.4 4141.8 24.7 15.0
Matt Schaub\SchaMa00 92 2009 3121 64.37 23894 7.66 129 4.13% 83 2.66% 90.3 167 1153 349.4 542.8 4155.5 22.4 14.4
Donovan McNabb\McNaDo00 97 1963 3257 60.27 24225 7.44 147 4.51% 68 2.09% 89.6 227 1468 323.8 537.2 3995.9 24.2 11.2
Andrew Luck\LuckAn00 86 2000 3290 60.79 23671 7.19 171 5.20% 83 2.52% 89.5 174 1124 372.1 612.1 4403.9 31.8 15.4
Derek Carr\CarrDe02 78 1759 2800 62.82 18739 6.69 122 4.36% 54 1.93% 88.8 142 858 360.8 574.4 3843.9 25.0 11.1
Andy Dalton\DaltAn00 120 2443 3921 62.31 28100 7.17 188 4.79% 104 2.65% 88.8 241 1489 325.7 522.8 3746.7 25.1 13.9
Matthew Stafford\StafMa00 141 3372 5405 62.39 38526 7.13 237 4.38% 129 2.39% 88.4 329 2105 382.6 613.3 4371.7 26.9 14.6
Carson Palmer\PalmCa00 181 3933 6286 62.57 46131 7.34 294 4.68% 184 2.93% 88.2 340 2364 347.7 555.7 4077.9 26.0 16.3
Alex Smith\SmitAl03 161 3050 4892 62.35 33702 6.89 190 3.88% 100 2.04% 87.2 406 2305 303.1 486.2 3349.3 18.9 9.9
Ryan Tannehill\TannRy00 88 1829 2911 62.83 20434 7.02 123 4.23% 75 2.58% 87 248 1885 332.5 529.3 3715.3 22.4 13.6
Cam Newton\NewtCa00 122 2307 3859 59.78 28287 7.33 181 4.69% 107 2.77% 86.5 285 2156 302.6 506.1 3709.8 23.7 14.0
Jay Cutler\CutlJa00 153 3048 4920 61.95 35133 7.14 227 4.61% 160 3.25% 85.3 322 2035 318.7 514.5 3674.0 23.7 16.7
Sam Bradford\BradSa00 83 1855 2967 62.52 19449 6.56 103 3.47% 61 2.06% 84.5 196 1371 357.6 572.0 3749.2 19.9 11.8
Brett Favre*\FavrBr00 109 2340 3706 63.14 26192 7.07 162 4.37% 127 3.43% 84.4 158 1089 343.5 544.0 3844.7 23.8 18.6
Eli Manning\MannEl00 230 4801 7963 60.29 55915 7.02 360 4.52% 239 3.00% 84.1 405 2823 334.0 553.9 3889.7 25.0 16.6
Joe Flacco\FlacJo00 163 3499 5670 61.71 38245 6.75 212 3.74% 136 2.40% 84.1 333 2360 343.5 556.6 3754.1 20.8 13.3
Jake Delhomme\DelhJa00 79 1394 2346 59.42 16814 7.17 103 4.39% 78 3.32% 82.2 136 1029 282.3 475.1 3405.4 20.9 15.8
Michael Vick\VickMi00 93 1439 2508 57.38 17834 7.11 110 4.39% 73 2.91% 82 244 1447 247.6 431.5 3068.2 18.9 12.6
Matt Hasselbeck\HassMa00 122 2393 3955 60.51 26887 6.80 158 3.99% 117 2.96% 81.8 247 1584 313.8 518.7 3526.2 20.7 15.3
Kyle Orton\OrtoKy00 82 1586 2667 59.47 17737 6.65 100 3.75% 68 2.55% 81.2 164 1009 309.5 520.4 3460.9 19.5 13.3
Ryan Fitzpatrick\FitzRy00 126 2456 4074 60.28 27714 6.80 176 4.32% 140 3.44% 80.7 231 1237 311.9 517.3 3519.2 22.3 17.8
Blake Bortles\BortBl00 73 1542 2602 59.26 17384 6.68 101 3.88% 73 2.81% 80.6 193 1146 338.0 570.3 3810.2 22.1 16.0

Oh, well that's pretty cool, thanks. 

Still, this kind of reinforces my point that this would take forever if done by hand so other means like Python or Excel is necessary. I wasn't ever saying this was especially complicated, just computationally intensive. 

Also, why does the ANY/A formula add 20 for a touchdown but subtract 45 for an interception exactly? Do you know how those values were decided upon?

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57 minutes ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said:

Oh, well that's pretty cool, thanks. 

Still, this kind of reinforces my point that this would take forever if done by hand so other means like Python or Excel is necessary. I wasn't ever saying this was especially complicated, just computationally intensive. 

Also, why does the ANY/A formula add 20 for a touchdown but subtract 45 for an interception exactly? Do you know how those values were decided upon?

It was based on an old book that I think was called Hidden Game of Football, or something like that. It basically means that a touchdown is worth 20 yards of added field position, while an interception is worth 45 yards of lost field position. They came to those numbers through analysis around expected points for each of those events, I believe. Similar to the numbers involved in the factors for passer rating (ie. "2.375 - (INT/ATT) * 25"). I think ANY/A correlates more to points scored now simply because it's based on analysis of more recent league data. The passer rating variables are based off league data from the 1960s.

Ideally there would be a constantly changing passer rating formula, with variables that are annually adjusted based on league data from the previous 10 years. That would also create a statistic that could arguably be used to compare QBs' seasons across multiple eras, which is more challenging now with stats like passer rating and ANY/A due to it becoming more of a passing league. Where it would get complicated is calculating a QB's career number for that statistic if the variables are changing each year. I suppose it could be the average or median number for all of the QB's individual seasons, but that wouldn't account for games played and things like that.

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14 hours ago, childofpudding said:

It was based on an old book that I think was called Hidden Game of Football, or something like that. It basically means that a touchdown is worth 20 yards of added field position, while an interception is worth 45 yards of lost field position. They came to those numbers through analysis around expected points for each of those events, I believe. Similar to the numbers involved in the factors for passer rating (ie. "2.375 - (INT/ATT) * 25"). I think ANY/A correlates more to points scored now simply because it's based on analysis of more recent league data. The passer rating variables are based off league data from the 1960s.

Ideally there would be a constantly changing passer rating formula, with variables that are annually adjusted based on league data from the previous 10 years. That would also create a statistic that could arguably be used to compare QBs' seasons across multiple eras, which is more challenging now with stats like passer rating and ANY/A due to it becoming more of a passing league. Where it would get complicated is calculating a QB's career number for that statistic if the variables are changing each year. I suppose it could be the average or median number for all of the QB's individual seasons, but that wouldn't account for games played and things like that.

Interesting. I checked into it, and it certainly looks to check out; ANY/A is a higher correlate to winning/scoring than passer rating, which I previously thought was the best measure among the "standard" statistics to evaluate quarterbacks. Thanks, I appreciate it, I didn't know this was such a great stat! Taking into account sacks is important, and it levels the playing field for the likes of Newton, Rodgers and Wilson. 

So, in the interest of having a more comprehensive display of the statistics of this time period, I changed it to show standardized sacks/season, sack %, and ANY/A. (It was redundant for me to list passer rating twice anyway, ANY/A replaces the first listing of passer rating. 

Peyton Manning:(04'-15')
376-564, 4428 yards, 35.0 Touchdowns, 13.3 Interceptions, 16.7 sacked, 7.62 ANY/A
66.6 CMP%, 7.85 Y/A, 6.20TD%, 2.35 INT%, 2.87 Sack% 101.2 passer rating
Tom Brady:
365-566, 4364 yards, 32.4 Touchdowns, 9.6 Interceptions, 26.7 sacked, 7.43 ANY/A
64.5 CMP%, 7.70 Y/A, 5.72TD%, 1.70 INT%, 4.50 Sack% 99.9 passer rating
Aaron Rodgers:
356-550, 4315 yards, 34.1 Touchdowns, 8.0 Interceptions, 40.8 sacked, 7.40 ANY/A
64.9 CMP%, 7.84 Y/A, 6.20TD%, 1.45 INT%, 6.91 Sack% 103.5 passer rating
Drew Brees:
409-601, 4666 yards, 33.3 Touchdowns, 13.7 Interceptions, 23.6 sacked, 7.28 ANY/A
68.1 CMP%, 7.76 Y/A, 5.53TD%, 2.28 INT%, 3.77 Sack% 100.1 passer rating
Tony Romo:
337-517, 4081 yards, 29.6 Touchdowns, 14.0 Interceptions, 29.6 sacked, 7.03 ANY/A
65.3 CMP%, 7.89 Y/A, 5.72TD%, 2.70 INT%, 5.41 Sack% 97.1 passer rating
Philip Rivers:
343-532, 4161 yards, 28.4 Touchdowns, 13.6 Interceptions, 31.3 sacked, 6.97 ANY/A
64.5 CMP%, 7.81 Y/A, 5.33TD%, 2.55 INT%, 5.55 Sack% 95.6 passer rating
Russel Wilson:
307-478, 3751 yards, 28.3 Touchdowns, 8.8 Interceptions, 44.3 sacked, 6.95 ANY/A
64.3 CMP%, 7.85 Y/A, 5.93TD%, 1.85 INT%, 8.49 Sack% 100.4 passer rating
Ben Roethlisberger:
350-544, 4243 yards, 27.4 Touchdowns, 14.2 Interceptions, 37.3 sacked, 6.72 ANY/A
64.3 CMP%, 7.79 Y/A, 5.03TD%, 2.60 INT%, 6.41 Sack% 94.1 passer rating
Andrew Luck:
379-599, 4410 yards, 33.8 Touchdowns, 14.9 Interceptions, 30.4 sacked, 6.70 ANY/A
63.3 CMP%, 7.36 Y/A, 5.64TD%, 2.48 INT%, 4.83 Sack% 94.0 passer rating
Matt Ryan:
383-584, 4382 yards, 28.3 Touchdowns, 12.4 Interceptions, 30.8 sacked, 6.81 ANY/A
65.7 CMP%, 7.50 Y/A, 4.84TD%, 2.12 INT%, 5.01 Sack% 95.4 passer rating
Cam Newton:
300-504, 3651 yards, 24.1 Touchdowns, 13.5 Interceptions, 37.4 sacked, 5.99 ANY/A
59.6 CMP%, 7.24 Y/A, 4.77TD%, 2.67 INT%, 6.90 Sack% 86.7 passer rating
Joe Flacco:
352-570, 3839 yards, 21.6 Touchdowns, 10.3 Interceptions, 32.8 sacked, 5.93 ANY/A
61.8 CMP%, 6.73 Y/A, 3.78TD%, 1.81 INT%, 5.43 Sack% 86.7 passer rating
Eli Manning:
337-557, 3941 yards, 25.4 Touchdowns, 16.5 Interceptions, 28.2 sacked, 5.99 ANY/A
60.6 CMP%, 7.07 Y/A, 4.55TD%, 2.96 INT%, 4.81 Sack% 84.8 passer rating
 

Now, I would normally list and evaluate the ANY/A of each player, but in the interest of accounting for differences in passing numbers, I found the average ANY/A of the league over the time period associated with each player, and subtracted it from their average over the period to find the differential between the average and the respective player's ANY/A. For example, the average ANY/A across 04'-07',-09'-18' when Tom Brady played is 5.90, and his average over the period was 7.43, so his differential is 1.53. On the other side of the spectrum, Russel Wilson's playing career featured an average ANY/A of 6.12,  a significantly higher value, and his average was 6.95 so his differential is +0.83. I did that for every quarterback and here are the rankings:

Peyton Manning: +1.89
Tom Brady: +1.53
Aaron Rodgers: +1.44
Drew Brees: +1.39
Tony Romo: +1.13
Philip Rivers: +1.06
Russel Wilson: +.83
Matt Ryan: +0.83
Ben Roethlisberger: +.81
Andrew Luck: +0.58
Eli Manning: +0.08
Joe Flacco: -0.05
Cam Newton: -0.10

Interesting notes from the new data compiled:

  • When comparing the top rankings of passer rating, it is completely different from that of ANY/A. For passer rating the top is: Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Brady, but for ANY/A it is: Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees. All four players switched positions in the ranking, which I thought was interesting. This is presumably because Brees loses favor because he doesn't benefit as much from his huge CMP%, and Rodgers dropped from #1 to #3 because of his abysmal Sack% now being taken into account.
  • Joe Flacco and Cam Newton managed to be worse in ANY/A across their time period than the average in the league over the same time. (Obviously this is indicated by their negative differential) Newton at least has the excuse of making up for that with his rushing abilities, Flacco just sucks. 
  • Wilson, Rodgers, and Newton's ANY/A look significantly worse than their passer rating because their high sack rates are being taken into account.  
  • The gap between Rivers and Roethlisberger in passer rating widened enormously compared to their gap in ANY/A. 
  • Surprisingly, Eli managed to have a slightly higher average ANY/A than the league did over the same period. Still, the gap between him and Luck is a huge 0.5, the largest  gap in consecutive positions. (Unless you don't include Peyton's "corpse" year of 15', his differential is +2.11 over the time period, making the difference between him and Brady the largest.)

 

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6 hours ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said:

Interesting. I checked into it, and it certainly looks to check out; ANY/A is a higher correlate to winning/scoring than passer rating, which I previously thought was the best measure among the "standard" statistics to evaluate quarterbacks. Thanks, I appreciate it, I didn't know this was such a great stat! Taking into account sacks is important, and it levels the playing field for the likes of Newton, Rodgers and Wilson. 

So, in the interest of having a more comprehensive display of the statistics of this time period, I changed it to show standardized sacks/season, sack %, and ANY/A. (It was redundant for me to list passer rating twice anyway, ANY/A replaces the first listing of passer rating. 

Peyton Manning:(04'-15')
376-564, 4428 yards, 35.0 Touchdowns, 13.3 Interceptions, 16.7 sacked, 7.62 ANY/A
66.6 CMP%, 7.85 Y/A, 6.20TD%, 2.35 INT%, 2.87 Sack% 101.2 passer rating
Tom Brady:
365-566, 4364 yards, 32.4 Touchdowns, 9.6 Interceptions, 26.7 sacked, 7.43 ANY/A
64.5 CMP%, 7.70 Y/A, 5.72TD%, 1.70 INT%, 4.50 Sack% 99.9 passer rating
Aaron Rodgers:
356-550, 4315 yards, 34.1 Touchdowns, 8.0 Interceptions, 40.8 sacked, 7.40 ANY/A
64.9 CMP%, 7.84 Y/A, 6.20TD%, 1.45 INT%, 6.91 Sack% 103.5 passer rating
Drew Brees:
409-601, 4666 yards, 33.3 Touchdowns, 13.7 Interceptions, 23.6 sacked, 7.28 ANY/A
68.1 CMP%, 7.76 Y/A, 5.53TD%, 2.28 INT%, 3.77 Sack% 100.1 passer rating
Tony Romo:
337-517, 4081 yards, 29.6 Touchdowns, 14.0 Interceptions, 29.6 sacked, 7.03 ANY/A
65.3 CMP%, 7.89 Y/A, 5.72TD%, 2.70 INT%, 5.41 Sack% 97.1 passer rating
Philip Rivers:
343-532, 4161 yards, 28.4 Touchdowns, 13.6 Interceptions, 31.3 sacked, 6.97 ANY/A
64.5 CMP%, 7.81 Y/A, 5.33TD%, 2.55 INT%, 5.55 Sack% 95.6 passer rating
Russel Wilson:
307-478, 3751 yards, 28.3 Touchdowns, 8.8 Interceptions, 44.3 sacked, 6.95 ANY/A
64.3 CMP%, 7.85 Y/A, 5.93TD%, 1.85 INT%, 8.49 Sack% 100.4 passer rating
Ben Roethlisberger:
350-544, 4243 yards, 27.4 Touchdowns, 14.2 Interceptions, 37.3 sacked, 6.72 ANY/A
64.3 CMP%, 7.79 Y/A, 5.03TD%, 2.60 INT%, 6.41 Sack% 94.1 passer rating
Andrew Luck:
379-599, 4410 yards, 33.8 Touchdowns, 14.9 Interceptions, 30.4 sacked, 6.70 ANY/A
63.3 CMP%, 7.36 Y/A, 5.64TD%, 2.48 INT%, 4.83 Sack% 94.0 passer rating
Matt Ryan:
383-584, 4382 yards, 28.3 Touchdowns, 12.4 Interceptions, 30.8 sacked, 6.81 ANY/A
65.7 CMP%, 7.50 Y/A, 4.84TD%, 2.12 INT%, 5.01 Sack% 95.4 passer rating
Cam Newton:
300-504, 3651 yards, 24.1 Touchdowns, 13.5 Interceptions, 37.4 sacked, 5.99 ANY/A
59.6 CMP%, 7.24 Y/A, 4.77TD%, 2.67 INT%, 6.90 Sack% 86.7 passer rating
Joe Flacco:
352-570, 3839 yards, 21.6 Touchdowns, 10.3 Interceptions, 32.8 sacked, 5.93 ANY/A
61.8 CMP%, 6.73 Y/A, 3.78TD%, 1.81 INT%, 5.43 Sack% 86.7 passer rating
Eli Manning:
337-557, 3941 yards, 25.4 Touchdowns, 16.5 Interceptions, 28.2 sacked, 5.99 ANY/A
60.6 CMP%, 7.07 Y/A, 4.55TD%, 2.96 INT%, 4.81 Sack% 84.8 passer rating
 

Now, I would normally list and evaluate the ANY/A of each player, but in the interest of accounting for differences in passing numbers, I found the average ANY/A of the league over the time period associated with each player, and subtracted it from their average over the period to find the differential between the average and the respective player's ANY/A. For example, the average ANY/A across 04'-07',-09'-18' when Tom Brady played is 5.90, and his average over the period was 7.43, so his differential is 1.53. On the other side of the spectrum, Russel Wilson's playing career featured an average ANY/A of 6.12,  a significantly higher value, and his average was 6.95 so his differential is +0.83. I did that for every quarterback and here are the rankings:

Peyton Manning: +1.89
Tom Brady: +1.53
Aaron Rodgers: +1.44
Drew Brees: +1.39
Tony Romo: +1.13
Philip Rivers: +1.06
Russel Wilson: +.83
Matt Ryan: +0.83
Ben Roethlisberger: +.81
Andrew Luck: +0.58
Eli Manning: +0.08
Joe Flacco: -0.05
Cam Newton: -0.10

Interesting notes from the new data compiled:

  • When comparing the top rankings of passer rating, it is completely different from that of ANY/A. For passer rating the top is: Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Brady, but for ANY/A it is: Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees. All four players switched positions in the ranking, which I thought was interesting. This is presumably because Brees loses favor because he doesn't benefit as much from his huge CMP%, and Rodgers dropped from #1 to #3 because of his abysmal Sack% now being taken into account.
  • Joe Flacco and Cam Newton managed to be worse in ANY/A across their time period than the average in the league over the same time. (Obviously this is indicated by their negative differential) Newton at least has the excuse of making up for that with his rushing abilities, Flacco just sucks. 
  • Wilson, Rodgers, and Newton's ANY/A look significantly worse than their passer rating because their high sack rates are being taken into account.  
  • The gap between Rivers and Roethlisberger in passer rating widened enormously compared to their gap in ANY/A. 
  • Surprisingly, Eli managed to have a slightly higher average ANY/A than the league did over the same period. Still, the gap between him and Luck is a huge 0.5, the largest  gap in consecutive positions. (Unless you don't include Peyton's "corpse" year of 15', his differential is +2.11 over the time period, making the difference between him and Brady the largest.)

 

Nice! I particularly like that ANY/A differential number, which helps account for era. Solid work.

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