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PRE-DRAFT VISITS VS. DRAFTED PLAYERS (2019 VISITS UPDATED APR 17/19)

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I am curious to see how often the Lions draft guys that come in as part of their official 30 visits.

2017 DRAFT

DRAFTED (3/9 picks = 33% + 1 UDFA)

1(21) Jarrad Davis LB Florida

2(53) Teez Tabor CB Florida

3(96) Kenny Golladay WR Northern Illinois

4(124) Jalen Reeves-Maybin LB Tennessee

(127) Michael Roberts TE Toledo

5(165) Jamal Agnew CB San Diego

6(205)Jeremiah Ledbetter DE Arkansas

(215) Brad Kaaya QB Miami

7(250) Pat O'Connor DE Eastern Michigan

Tion Green - UDFA

Similar to last year (Ragnow), the Lions never officially met with Jarrad Davis in 2017.

Draft Needs (Drafted in BOLD): LB (x2), DL (x2), WR, RB, CB(x2), TE

 

Lions 2017 Official Visits vs. Drafted (Drafted players in bold) (4/27 or 15%)

WR Quincy Adeboyejo (Ole Miss)
WR Stacy Coley (Miami)
WR Chris Godwin (Penn State)
WR Kenny Golladay (Northern Illinois)
WR Damore’ea Stringfellow (Ole Miss)
RB Tion Green (Cincinnati)
TE Jason Croom (Tennessee)
TE Mason Schreck (Buffalo)
OT Taylor Gadbois (Southeastern Louisiana)
OT David Sharpe (Florida)
DE Taco Charlton (Michigan)
DE Tanoh Kpassagnon (Villanova)
DE Takkarist McKinley (UCLA)
DE Jeremiah Valoaga (UNLV)
DE Deatrich Wise (Arkansas)
DT Grover Stewart (Albany State)
DT Malik McDowell (Michigan State)
LB Reuben Foster (Alabama)
LB Raekwon McMillan (Ohio State)
LB Calvin Munson (San Diego State)
LB T.J. Watt (Wisconsin)
LB Eric Wilson (Cincinnati)
LB Haason Reddick (Temple)
CB Jamal Agnew (San Diego)
CB Teez Tabor (Florida)
CB Brandon Wilson (Houston)
SS Obi Melifonwu (UConn)

 

 

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2019 PRE-DRAFT VISITS (ACCORDING TO WALTERFOOTBALL.COM/BR APP) - Updated April 17, 2019

PRI = Private; LOC = Local; Bold are guys they've met with more than once

SAFETY

  • Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State (PRI)
  • Nasir Adderley^, S, Delaware (SR, WOR)
  • Taylor Rapp, S, Washington (PRI)

DE/3-4 OLB

  • Josh Allen^, 3-4OLB/OLB, Kentucky (COM, PRI)
  • Nick Bosa, DE/3-4OLB, Ohio State (COM)
  • L.J. Collier, DE/3-4DE, TCU (PRI)
  • Rashan Gary, DE/3-4DE, Michigan (LOC) - Will have a private workout (from Chris Simms' podcast)
  • Charles Omenihu, DE, Texas (COM)
  • Maxx Crosby, DE, Eastern Michigan (LOC)
  • Charles Harris, DE, Buffalo (LOC)
  • Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan (LOC)
  • Brian Burns, DE/3-4 OLB, Florida State (PRI)
  • Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson (PRI)

DT

  • Ed Oliver, DT, Houston (COM)
  • Quinnen Williams, DT/3-4DE, Alabama (COM)
  • Kingsley Keke, DT, Texas A&M
  • Reggie Howard, DT, Toledo (LOC)
  • PJ Johnson, DT, Arizona

LB

  • Devin Bush, ILB, Michigan (LOC)
  • Malik Carney, OLB, North Carolina (EW)
  • Blake Cashman, ILB, Minnesota (COM)
  • Sione Takitaki, OLB, Brigham Young (EW)
  • Anthony Pittman, ILB, Wayne State (LOC)
  • Juwon Young, ILB, Marshall (PRI)
  • Darius Harris, LB, Middle Tennessee State

CB

  • Blessuan Austin, CB, Rutgers (PRO) - 6'1, 198 lbs, 4.65 40
  • Derrick Baity, CB, Kentucky (PRI) - 6'2, 186, 
  • Blace Brown, CB, Troy (PRO) - 6'0, 194 lbs, 4.75 40
  • Ka'dar Hollman, CB, Toledo (WOR) - 6'0, 190 lbs, 4.37 40
  • Tae Hayes, CB, Appalachian State - 5'10, 185 lbs, 4.50 40
  • Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt (PRI) - 6'4, 211 lbs, 4.55 40
  • Jamel Dean, CB, Auburn (PRI) - 6'1, 206 lbs, 4.30 40
  • Isaiah Wharton, CB, Rutgers (PRI) 6'0, 200 lbs, 4.6 40
  • Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan (LOC) - 6'0, 195 lbs, 4.42 40
  • David Long, CB, Michigan (LOC) - 5'11, 196 lbs, 4.45 40
  • Cam Lewis, CB, Buffalo (LOC) - 5'9.5, 185 lbs, 4.40 40
  • Byron Murphy, CB, Washington (PRI), 5'11, 190 lbs, 4.55 40
  • Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky (PRI), 6'2, 213 lbs, 4.52 40

WR

  • Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri (PRO)
  • N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State (PRI)
  • Jamal Custis, WR, Syracuse (PRO)
  • Gary Jennings, WR, West Virginia (PRO)
  • David Sills, WR, West Virginia (PRO)
  • Berkley Edwards, WR, Michigan (LOC) > Braylon Edwards' brother
  • Cody Thompson, WR, Toledo (LOC)
  • John Ursua, WR, Hawaii (PRI)
  • Diontae Johnson, WR, Toledo (LOC)

OL

  • Nate Davis, OT, Charlotte (PRO)
  • Joshua Miles, G, Morgan State (EW)
  • Dru Samia, G, Oklahoma (PRO)
  • Derrick Puni, OT/OG, Central Missouri (PRI)
  • Oli Udoh, OT, Elon (PRI)

TE

  • Noah Fant, TE, Iowa (COM,PRI)
  • Dawson Knox, TE, Ole Miss (PRI)
  • Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia (COM)
  • Kaden Smith, TE, Stanford (COM)
  • Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M (PRI)
  • Drew Sample, TE, Washington (PRI)
  •  

QB

  • Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State (COM)
  • Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo (COM)
  • Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma (COM)
  • Tyler Wiegers, QB, Eastern Michigan (LOC)
  • Will Grier, QB, West Virginia (PRI)

RB

  • Karan Higdon, RB, Michigan (LOC)

A name that is missing from this list despite several other guys at the position is TJ Hockenson. Hopefully this isn't telling of how our first pick plays out.

 

 

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2018 DRAFT (3/6 = 50% + 1 UDFA)

1(20) Frank Ragnow C Arkansas

2(43) Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn

3(82)Tracy Walker S Louisiana

4(114) Da'Shawn Hand DE Alabama

5(153) Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon

7(237)Nick Bawden FB San Diego State

Mike Ford, CB, UDFA

Draft Needs: OL(x2), Edge, DT, RB, TE

QUARTERBACK

Jeremiah Briscoe, QB, Sam Houston State (PRO)

Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond (WOR)

John O’Korn, QB, Michigan (LOC)

Brogan Roback, Eastern Michigan (LOC)

Nic Shimonek, QB, Texas Tech (EW)

Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky (PRI)

Logan Woodside, QB, Toledo (LOC)

RUNNING BACKS:

Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State (SR, PRI)

Donnie Ernsberger, FB/TE, Western Michigan (WO)

Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (PRO)

Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (PRI)

Ryan Nall, RB, Oregon State (COM)

Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (SR)

Henry Poggi, Michigan (LOC)

Jaylen Samuels, RB/TE, NC State (SR)

RB Terry Swanson, RB, Toledo (LOC)

TIGHT ENDS:

Jordan Aikens, TE, Central Florida (WO)

Tyler Conklin, TE, Central Michigan (LOC)

Dallas Goedert, TE, SDSU (PRI)

Chris Herndon, TE, Miami (WO)

Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina (PRI)

Ben Johnson, TE, Kansas

Ryan Smith, TE, Miami OH (PRO)

WIDE RECEIVERS:

Sergio Bailey, Eastern Michigan (LOC)

Brandon Bean, WR, Grand Valley State (PRO, LOC)

Devin Gray, WR, Cincinnati (PRO)

Davon Grayson, WR, East Carolina (WO)

Keith Kirkwood, WR, Temple (PRO)

Teo Redding, WR, Bowling Green (LOC)

Tre’Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (WOR)

Vyncint Smith, WR, Limestone (WOR)

Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (PRO)

Deon Yelder, WR, Western Kentucky (PRO)

OFFENSIVE LINE:

Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma (PRI)

Geron Christian, OT, Louisville (PRI)

Mason Cole, OL, Michigan

Tyrell Crosby, OT/OG, Oregon (PRI)

Matthew Gono, G, Wesley (PRI, WO)

Will Hernandez, G, UTEP (COM)

Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA (COM)

Elijah Nkansah, OT, Toledo (LOC)

Chuks Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan (LOC)

Brandon Parker, OT, NC A&T (PRI)

Brandon Pertile, OG, Virginia (WO)

Greg Senat, OT, Wagner (EW)

Isaiah Wynn, OG/OT, Georgia (COM)

DEFENSIVE LINE:

Joshua Frazier, DT/DE, Alabama (PRO)

Rasheem Green, DE/DT, USC (PRI)

Da’Shawn Hand, DT, Alabama

B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (SR)

Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan (LOC)

Justin Jones, DT, N.C. State (PRO)

Hercules Mata’afa, DE/DT, Washington State (COM)

Bilal Nichols, DT, Delaware (COM, WO)

Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama (COM)

Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (SR)

Zach Sieler, DT/DE, Ferris State (PRI, LOC)

Tim Settle, DT, Virginia Tech (COM)

Nathan Shepard, DT, Fort Hays State

Breeland Speaks, DT/DE, Ole Miss (PRI)

Kentavius Street, DE/DT, N.C. State (PRO)

EDGE DEFENDERS:

Dorance Armstrong Jr., EDGE, Kansas (WO)

Lorenzo Carter, EDGE, Georgia (COM)

Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (SR, COM)

Leon Jacobs, OLB, Wisconsin (EW)

Arden Key, EDGE, LSU (PRO, COM)

Harold Landry, EDGE, Boston College (COM, PRI)

Justin Lawler, DE, Southern Methodist (PRO)

Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (SR)

Joe Ostman, DE, Central Michigan (PRO)

LINEBACKERS:

Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State (PRI)

Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama (PRI)

Josey Jewell, MLB, Iowa (COM)

Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State (PRO)

Frank Luvu, MLB, Washington State (PRI, PRO)

Mike McCray, LB, Michigan (LOC)

Christian Sam, LB, Arizona State (WO)

Ike Spearman, Eastern Michigan (LOC)

Mike Wroblewski, LB Michigan (LOC)

CORNERBACKS:

Darius Allensworth, CB, California (PRO)

Amari Coleman, CB, Central Michigan (PRO)

Mike Ford, CB, Southeast Missouri State (PRO)

Davontae Harris, CB, Illinois State (EW)

Tre Herndon, CB, Vanderbilt (WO)

Kameron Kelly CB/S, San Diego State (SR)

Trevon Mathis, CB, Toledo (LOC)

Darius Phillips, CB, Western Michigan (SR, LOC)

Tavierre Thomas, DB, Ferris State (LOC)

SAFETIES:

Mycial Allen, S, Northern Illinois (LOC)

Jessie Bates, FS, Wake Forest (PRI)

Josh Cox, DB, Central Michigan (LOC)

Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama (PRI)

Trayvon Henderson, S, Hawaii (PRO)

A.J. Howard, FS, Appalachian State (PRO)

Derwin James, S, Florida State (COM)

Natrell Jamerson, S, Wisconsin (WO)

Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (PRI)

Damon Webb, S, Ohio State (PRO, LOC)

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They haven’t met a bunch of potential high first rounders.

I was surprised to see they met with Kyler Murray.

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1 hour ago, diehardlionfan said:

They haven’t met a bunch of potential high first rounders.

I was surprised to see they met with Kyler Murray.

They've met most of the top guys: Bosa, Kyler, Haskins, Oliver, Allen, Williams.

Hockenson and Devin White are the two guys that are noticeably missing. Patricia was a little deflective when asked about (White) at the coaches meetings with a little inflection in his voice - almost like he was excited to talk about the guy but also knew it wasn't something he could/wanted to talk about.

There is still a lot of time before the draft for other meetings, so we'll see how it shakes out.

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1 hour ago, Karnage84 said:

They've met most of the top guys: Bosa, Kyler, Haskins, Oliver, Allen, Williams.

Hockenson and Devin White are the two guys that are noticeably missing. Patricia was a little deflective when asked about (White) at the coaches meetings with a little inflection in his voice - almost like he was excited to talk about the guy but also knew it wasn't something he could/wanted to talk about.

There is still a lot of time before the draft for other meetings, so we'll see how it shakes out.

Christian Wilkins, Montez Sweat, Clelin Ferrell, were whose absence I noticed.

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13 minutes ago, diehardlionfan said:

Christian Wilkins, Montez Sweat, Clelin Ferrell, were whose absence I noticed.

That's true on Sweat... he could be a guy like Ragnow where they're not trying to give any indication on him. I don't think they're expecting guys like Williams or Allen to fall to them but want to do their homework in case and see whether they'd still want to trade down. Ex. If Oliver or Allen are sitting there, would they still want to trade down with a team like Atlanta

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This is a list of the Patriots pre-draft prospects according to https://www.patspulpit.com/2019/2/27/18242171/2019-nfl-draft-combine-new-england-patriots-interview-workouts-meetings-tracker

There will be some overlap with the top guys but they also do share a lot of similarities in what they're looking for in guys. It should help give some indication on players that the Lions like (not guaranteed to draft).

Senior Bowl

DE Jalen Jelks, Oregon (6060, 245 lbs)

OT Dalton Risner, Kansas State (6048, 312 lbs

QB Tyree Jackson, Buffalo (6070, 249 lbs

QB Will Grier, West Virginia (6021, 217 lbs

WR Hunter Renfrow, Clemson (5101, 184 lbs

WR Andy Isabella, Massachusetts (5087, 188 lbs

WR Terry McLaurin, Ohio State (6001, 208 lbs)

DE Zach Allen, Boston College (6041, 281 lbs)

DE Charles Omenihu, Texas (6054, 280 lbs)

DE Ben Banogu, TCU (6035, 250 lbs)

DE John Cominsky, Charleston (6053, 286 lbs)

DT Byron Cowart, Maryland (6030, 298 lbs)

DT Jonathan Ledbetter, Georgia (6038, 280 lbs)

DE Anthony Nelson, Iowa (6070, 271 lbs)

DT Isaiah Buggs, Alabama (6031, 306 lbs)

NFL Combine

OT Greg Little, Ole Miss (6053, 310 lbs)

OT Tytus Howard, Alabama State (6050, 322 lbs)

RB Trayveon Williams, Texas A&M (5081, 206 lbs)

RB Miles Sanders, Penn State (5106, 211 lbs)

RB James Williams, Washington State (5095, 197 lbs)

RB Tony Pollard, Memphis (5116, 210 lbs)

WR Greg Dortch, Wake Forest (5071, 173 lbs)

WR Riley Ridley, Georgia (6011, 199 lbs)

WR Deebo Samuel, South Carolina (5114, 216 lbs)

WR J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, Stanford (6020, 225 lbs)

WR Marquise Brown, Oklahoma (5093, 166 lbs)

WR Stanley Morgan Jr., Nebraska (6000, 202 lbs)

TE Kahale Warring, San Diego State (6051, 252 lbs)

TE Noah Fant, Iowa (6041, 249 lbs)

TE Tommy Sweeney, Boston College (6045, 251 lbs)

TE Caleb Wilson, UCLA (6041, 240 lbs)

TE Irv Smith, Alabama (6023, 242 lbs)

TE Isaac Nauta, Georgia (6031, 244 lbs)

TE Kaden Smith, Stanford (6050, 255 lbs)

DT Greg Gaines, Washington (6010, 312 lbs)

DT Gerald Willis, Miami (6018, 302 lbs)

DT Daylon Mack, Texas A&M (6010, 336 lbs)

DT Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame (6065, 295 lbs)

DT Dre’Mont Jones, Ohio State (6028, 281 lbs)

DE Austin Bryant, Clemson (6039, 271 lbs)

DE CeCe Jefferson, Florida (6015, 266 lbs)

DE Daniel Wise, Kansas State (6026, 281 lbs)

DE Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan (6048, 255 lbs)

DE Joe Jackson, Miami (6043, 275 lbs)

DE Shareef Miller, Penn State (6045, 254 lbs)

DE Darryl Johnson, North Carolina A&T (6060, 253 lbs)

CB Rock Ya-Sin, Temple (5118, 192 lbs)

SS Taylor Rapp, Washington (5118, 208 lbs)

FS Nasir Adderley, Delaware (5118, 206 lbs)

Pro Days

OG Nick Allegretti, Illinois (6040, 320 lbs)

CB Xavier Crawford, Central Michigan (5109, 187 lbs)

OT Aaron Monteiro, Boston College (6070, 320 lbs)

OG Chris Lindstrom, Boston College (6038, 308 lbs)

WR Gary Jennings, West Virginia (6010, 214 lbs)

WR David Sills, West Virginia (6033, 211 lbs)

RB Marquis Young, Massachusetts (6010, 215 lbs)

DE Jaylon Ferguson, Louisiana Tech (6050, 269 lbs)

LB Terez Hall, Missouri (6011, 230 lbs)

DE Jamal Davis II, Akron (6031, 243 lbs)

DE Jesse Aniebonam, Maryland (6030, 260 lbs)

Top 30 meetings

CB Joejuan Williams, Vanderbilt (6036, 211 lbs)

LB Blake Cashman, Minnesota (6011, 237 lbs)

TE Jace Sternberger, Texas A&M (6040, 251 lbs)

WR Miles Boykin, Notre Dame (6038, 220 lbs)

WR A.J. Brown, Mississippi (6005, 226 lbs)

WR N’Keal Harry, Arizona State (6024, 228 lbs)

OT Kaleb McGary, Washington (6071, 317 lbs)

SS Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State (5114, 205 lbs)

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I don't get why for example you look at every te but the one everyone is calling number one... And you wanna trade down.. he seems to do this with a lot different positions 

It feels like your trying to smoke screen stuff but it's just not working...

Random.... but I think Bobby is scared to make this pick at 8.. I think he trades up if he can't down.. he knows if he ends up with the lesser player that alone will put his job in jeopardy buut if you trade down a lot is forgiven... jmo

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On 4/3/2019 at 2:05 PM, Karnage84 said:

That's true on Sweat... he could be a guy like Ragnow where they're not trying to give any indication on him. I don't think they're expecting guys like Williams or Allen to fall to them but want to do their homework in case and see whether they'd still want to trade down. Ex. If Oliver or Allen are sitting there, would they still want to trade down with a team like Atlanta

If Allen is there they better be sprinting to the turn in that card. In fact it would take a lot to trade down if Oliver is there too. 

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LJ Collier, DE, TCU had an extended stay with the Lions. Guy that is pushing upwards into the 1st round according to media outlets. This could be a guy the Lions are targeting in a trade down. They could also be boosting his stock to make another guy drop to them in Rd 2. Who knows these days.

 

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23 minutes ago, Karnage84 said:

LJ Collier, DE, TCU had an extended stay with the Lions. Guy that is pushing upwards into the 1st round according to media outlets. This could be a guy the Lions are targeting in a trade down. They could also be boosting his stock to make another guy drop to them in Rd 2. Who knows these days.

 

God I hope not

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If anyone is up for it, a consensus forum Big Board might be fun to put together. 

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