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Hi Guys. I see you’re a bunch of draft nuts. I’m brand new here and mostly joined because I’m a bit obsessed with anything NFL (fantasy, mock drafts). I love the process of building a team. I’m a Colts fan, but a fan of anyone doing it the right way on the side.

I would absolutely love to be part of this. I tried to sign up about 2 weeks ago to maybe get in one of the GM mocks but the site took a long time approving my membership. Any chance there’s room for a newbie? 

 

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9 hours ago, RTTRUTH said:

Hi Guys. I see you’re a bunch of draft nuts. I’m brand new here and mostly joined because I’m a bit obsessed with anything NFL (fantasy, mock drafts). I love the process of building a team. I’m a Colts fan, but a fan of anyone doing it the right way on the side.

I would absolutely love to be part of this. I tried to sign up about 2 weeks ago to maybe get in one of the GM mocks but the site took a long time approving my membership. Any chance there’s room for a newbie? 

 

A Colts’ fan? That is a White Whale around here lol

welcome aboard! We are winding down this mock season but hopefully this keeper league gets off the ground! But keep sticking around and we have some cool mocks that start up in like Jan/Feb and run through April 

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1 hour ago, EaglesPeteC said:

A Colts’ fan? That is a White Whale around here lol

welcome aboard! We are winding down this mock season but hopefully this keeper league gets off the ground! But keep sticking around and we have some cool mocks that start up in like Jan/Feb and run through April 

I will definitely check in to keep an eye on the TCMD. It’s a cool idea for team building junkies. In the end, the hardest part is fairly deciding who wins.

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5 hours ago, RTTRUTH said:

I will definitely check in to keep an eye on the TCMD. It’s a cool idea for team building junkies. In the end, the hardest part is fairly deciding who wins.

Your probably already in prime position for Colts. We tend to struggle to fill them.

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19 hours ago, RTTRUTH said:

I have also run mocks myself on other sites, going back 10 years. 

When we finish our draft tomorrow night I’ll post the whole thing here for fun. To give me some “street cred” also, lol

Welcome aboard.

It's been a busy week but after this weekend we should start talking again.

 

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9 hours ago, RTTRUTH said:

I will definitely check in to keep an eye on the TCMD. It’s a cool idea for team building junkies. In the end, the hardest part is fairly deciding who wins.

Not a huge issue on this site @EaglesPeteCwill always talk his way into the W

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In case anyone is bored and just wants a comparison, here's how the GM mock draft I ran turned out. I'm kind of surprised myself how different they really are between say rounds 3-6

Round 1
1(1) Buccaneers - Kyler Murray: QB - Oklahoma
1(2) Raiders - Nick Bosa: DE - Ohio State
1(3) Jets - Josh Allen: DE - Kentucky
1(4) Packers - Quinnen Williams: DT - Alabama
1(5) Cardinals - Jonah Williams: OT - Alabama
1(6) Giants - Dwayne Haskins: QB - Ohio State
1(7) Jaguars - Jawaan Taylor: OT - Florida
1(8) Lions - Ed Oliver: DL - Houston
1(9) Dolphins - Devin White: LB - LSU
1(10) Broncos - Rashan Gary: DL - Michigan
1(11) Bengals - Montez Sweat: DE - Mississippi State
1(12) 49ers - Brian Burns: OLB - Florida State
1(13) Bills - T.J. Hockenson: TE - Iowa
1(14) Falcons - Christian Wilkins: DT- Clemson
1(15) Redskins - D.K. Metcalf: WR - Mississippi
1(16) Panthers - Andre Dillard: OT - Washington State
1(17) Giants - Clelin Ferrell: DE - Clemson
1(18) Vikings - Oshane Ximines: DE - Old Dominion
1(19) Titans - Garrett Bradbury: C - North Carolina State
1(20) Steelers - Devin Bush: ILB - Michigan
1(21) Seahawks - Cody Ford: OT - Oklahoma
1(22) Ravens - A.J. Brown: WR - Mississippi
1(23) Texans - Greedy Williams: CB - LSU
1(24) Raiders - Noah Fant: TE - Iowa
1(25) Chargers (via PHI) - Erik McCoy: C - Texas A&M
1(26) Colts  - Byron Murphy: CB - Washington
1(27) Raiders - Josh Jacobs: RB - Alabama
1(28) Eagles (via LAC) - Chris Lindstrom: G - Boston College
1(29) Chiefs - Justin Layne: CB - Michigan St.
1(30) 49ers - Deandre Baker: CB - Georgia
1(31) Giants  - Jeffery Simmons: DT - Mississippi State
1(32) Patriots - N'Keal Harry: WR - Arizona St.
 
Round 2 (Wed Apr10)
2(1) Cardinals - Dalton Risner: OL - Kansas State
2(2) Colts  -  Jerry Tillery: DT - Notre Dame
2(3) 49ers (via OAK) - Kelvin Harmon: WR - North Carolina State
2(4) Vikings (via SF) - Amani Oruwariye: CB - Penn State
2(5) Rams (via NYG) - Julian Love: CB - Notre Dame
2(6) Jaguars - Jaylon Ferguson: DE - Louisiana Tech
2(7) Cardinals (via TB) - Parris Campbell: WR - Ohio State
2(8) Bills  -  Dexter Lawrence: DT - Clemson
2(9) Broncos - Marquise Brown: WR - Oklahoma
2(10) Dolphins (via CIN) - Drew Lock: QB - Missouri
2(11) Lions -  Hakeem Butler: WR - Iowa State
2(12) Packers - Irv Smith Jr.: TE - Alabama
2(13) Eagles (via ATL) - Dre'Mont Jones: DT - Ohio State
2(14) Redskins - Daniel Jones: QB - Duke
2(15) Panthers - Rock Ya'Sin: CB - Temple
2(16) Bengals (via MIA) - Kaleb McGary: OT - Washington
2(17) Browns - Johnathan Abram: S - Mississippi State
2(18) 49ers (via MIN) - Nasir Adderley: S - Delaware
2(19) Titans -  Chase Winovich: OLB - Michigan
2(20) Steelers - Trayvon Mullen: CB - Clemson
2(21) Browns  - Mack Wilson: LB - Alabama
2(22) Texans - Greg Little: OT - Mississippi
2(23) Texans - Elgton Jenkins: C - Mississippi State
2(24) Patriots - Deebo Samuel: WR - South Carolina
2(25) Chargers (via PHI) - Will Grier: QB - West Virginia
2(26) Patriots (via DAL) - Charles Omenihu: DL - Texas
2(27) Raiders (via IND) - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson: DB - Florida
2(28) Eagles (via LAC) - David Montgomery: RB - Iowa State
2(29) Chiefs - Ben Banogu: Edge - TCU
2(30) Saints - Yodny Cajuste: OT - West Virginia
2(31) Chiefs - Miles Sanders: RB - Penn State
2(32) Cowboys (via NE) - Taylor Rapp: FS - Washington
 
Round 3
3(1) Cardinals - Dawson Knox: TE - Mississippi
3(2) Steelers - Juan Thornhill: S -  Virginia
3(3) Colts (via OAK) - Darnell Savage Jr: S - Maryland
3(4) Jets  - Michael Jordan: C - OSU
3(5) Jaguars - Jace Sternberger: TE - Texas A&M
3(6) Buccaneers - Chuma Edoga: OT - USC
Giants forfeit / 2018 supplemental draft
3(7) Broncos - Kaden Smith: TE - Stanford
3(8) Dolphins (via CIN) - Zach Allen: DE - Boston College
3(9) Eagles - Deionte Thompson: S - Alabama
3(10) Bills  - Jachai Polite: Edge - Florida
3(11) Packers - Amani Hooker: S - Iowa
3(12) Redskins - Dax Raymond: TE - Utah State
3(13) Panthers - Riley Ridley: WR - UGA
3(14) Bengals (via MIA) - JJ Arcega-Whiteside: WR - Stanford
3(15) Falcons - D’Andre Walker: Edge - UGA
3(16) Falcons - Sean Bunting: CB - Central Michigan
3(17) 49ers (via MIN)- Gerald Willis: DT - Miami
3(18) Titans - Andy Isabella: WR - Massachusetts
3(19) Steelers - L.J. Collier: DE - TCU
3(20) Seahawks - Joejuan Williams: CB - Vanderbilt
3(21) Ravens - Vosean Joseph: ILB - Florida
3(22) Bills (via HOU)- Miles Boykin: WR - Notre Dame
3(23) Bears - Jalen Jelks: OLB - Oregon
3(24) Lions  - David Long: CB - Michigan
3(25) Colts - Tytus Howard: OT - Alabama State
3(26) Cowboys - Khalen Saunders: DT - Western Illinois
3(27) Panthers (via NE<PHI<LAC) - Damien Harris: RB - Alabama
3(28) Chiefs - David Long Jr.: LB - West Virginia
3(29) Jets  -  Michael Deiter: G - Wisconsin
3(30) Rams  - Daylon Mack: DT - Texas A&M
3(31) Giants - Isaiah Johnson: CB - Houston
3(32) Packers - Tre Lamar: ILB - Clemson
3(33) Patriots - Josh Oliver: TE - San Jose State
3(34) Jaguars - Terry McLaurin: WR - OSU
3(35) Rams - T.J. Edwards: ILB - Wisconsin
3(36) Panthers - Joe Jackson: DE - Miami
3(37) Browns - Darrell Henderson: RB - Memphis
3(38) Ravens - Jamel Dean: CB - Auburn
 
Round 4
4(1) Cardinals - Anthony Nelson: DL - Iowa
4(2) 49ers  - Connor McGovern: G - Penn State
4(3) Jets  - Lonnie Johnson: CB - Kentucky
4(4) Colts (via OAK) - Benny Snell Jr: RB - Kentucky
4(5) Cardinals (via TB) - Marquise Blair: S - Utah
4(6) Giants - Max Scharping: OT - Northern Illinois
4(7) Jaguars - Devin Singletary: RB - FAU
4(8) Dolphins (via CIN) - Christian Miller: OLB - Alabama
4(9) Lions  - Kahale Warring: TE - San Diego State
4(10) Rams - Nate Davis: G - Charlotte
4(11) Ravens - Isaiah Buggs: DE - Alabama
4(12) Packers - Emanuel Hall: WR - Missouri
4(13) Falcons - Germaine Pratt: LB, NC State
4(14) Texans (via BUF) - Foster Moreau: TE - LSU
4(15) Panthers - Jaquon Johnson: S - Miami
4(16) Redskins - Dru Samia: G - Oklahoma
4(17) Patriots - Delvon Randall: S -Temple
4(18) Vikings - Ross Pierschbacher: C - Alabama
4(19) Cowboys - Austin Bryant: DE - Clemson
4(20) Steelers - Gary Jennings: WR - West Virginia
4(21) Ravens - Elijah Holyfield: RB - Georgia
4(22) Seahawks - Kingsley Keke: DL - Texas A&M
4(23) Broncos - David Edwards: G - Wisconsin
4(24) Browns - Trysten Hill: DT - UCF
4(25) Eagles - Terrill Hanks: LB - New Mexico State
4(26) Cowboys - Lamont Gaillard: C - Georgia
4(27) Raiders (via IND) - Bobby Okereke: LB - Stanford
4(28) Chargers -  Te'Von Coney: LB - Notre Dame
4(29) Texans (via BUF) - Anthony Johnson: WR - Buffalo
4(30) Rams (via NYG) - Dennis Daley: OT - South Carolina
4(31) Falcons - Mecole Hardman: WR - Georgia
4(32) Steelers (via DAL<NE) - Albert Huggins: DL - Clemson
4(33) Colts - Maxx Crosby: DE - Eastern Michigan
4(34) Titans - Renell Wren: DL - Arizona St.
4(35) Saints - Isaac Nauta: TE - Georgia
4(36) Chargers (via PHI) - Iman Marshall: CB - USC
 
Round 5
5(1) Cardinals - Blake Cashman: LB - Minnesota
5(2) 49ers -  Michael Jackson Jr: CB - Miami
5(3) Cowboys - Alize Mack: TE - Notre Dame
5(4) Giants - Jahlani Tavai: LB - Hawaii
5(5) Giants - Sheldrick Redwine: S - Miami
5(6) Bears - Trayveon Williams: RB - Texas A&M
5(7) Buccaneers - James Williams: RB - Washington State
5(8) Lions  - Stanley Morgan Jr: WR - Nebraska
5(9) Texans (via BUF) - Justice Hill: RB - Oklahoma St.
5(10) Broncos - Joe Giles-Harris: LB - Duke
5(11) Bengals - Isaiah Prince: OT - OSU
5(12) Redskins - Mike Edwards: S - Kentucky
5(13) Dolphins - Beau Benzschawel: G - Wisconsin
5(14) Falcons - Chase Hansen: S - Utah
5(15) Browns - Bobby Evans: OL - Oklahoma
5(16) Panthers - Ben Powers: G - Oklahoma
5(17) Patriots - Devine Ozigbo: RB - Nebraska
5(18) Broncos - Jarrett Stidham: QB - Auburn
5(19) Titans -  Mitch Hyatt: OL - Clemson
5(20) Texans (via BUF) - Porter Gustin: OLB - USC
5(21) Seahawks - John Cominsky: DL - Charleston
5(22) Ravens - Nate Herbig: G - Stanford
5(23) Texans - Will Harris: S - Boston College
5(24) Bears - Jimmy Moreland: CB - James Madison
5(25) Patriots (via PHI) - Armon Watts: DL - Arkansas
5(26) Colts  - Dillon Mitchell: WR - Oregon
5(27) Titans -  Tyree Jackson: QB - Buffalo
5(28) Eagles (via LAC) - Trey Pipkins: OT - Sioux Falls
5(29) Chiefs - Jakobi Meyers: WR - North Carolina State
5(30) Falcons - Jordan Brailford: DE - Oklahoma St.
5(31) Rams - Blace Brown: CB - Troy
5(32) Redskins - Penny Hart: WR - Georgia Southern
5(33) Giants - Tommy Sweeney: TE - Boston College
5(34) Falcons - Ryan Finley: QB - North Carolina State
5(35) Redskins - Otaro Alaka: LB - Texas A&M
 
Round 6
6(1) Cardinals - David Sills: WR - West Virginia
6(2) Browns  - Jordan Brown: CB - South Dakota State
6(3) Raiders - Brett Rypien: QB - Boise State
6(4) Saints - Mike Weber: RB - OSU
6(5) Jaguars - Daniel Wise: DL - Kansas
6(6) Cardinals - Wes Hills: RB - Slippery Rock
6(7) Giants - Demarkus Lodge: WR - Mississippi
6(8) Bills  - Kris Boyd: CB - Texas
6(9) Broncos - Greg Gaines: NT - Washington
6(10) Bengals - Clayton Thorson: QB - Northwestern
6(11) Lions  - Kendall Sheffield: CB - OSU
6(12) Redskins - Bryce Love: RB - Stanford
6(13) Falcons - Corey Ballentine: CB - Washburn
Redskins forfeit / 2018 Supplemental draft
6(14) Panthers - Marvell Tell III: FS - USC
6(15) Titans - Myles Gaskin: RB - Washington
6(16) Bears -  Matt Gay: PK - Utah
6(17) 49ers (via MIN) - Rodney Anderson: RB - Oklahoma
6(18) Ravens - Jamal Davis: LB - Akron
6(19) Steelers - Alex Barnes: RB - Kansas State
6(20) Ravens - Greg Dortch: WR - Wake Forest
6(21) Packers - Hamp Cheevers: CB - Boston College
6(22) Texans - Saivion Smith: CB - Alabama
6(23) Jets - Antoine Wesley: WR - Texas Tech
6(24) Eagles - Gardner Minshew: QB - Washington State
6(25) Bengals - Zach Gentry: TE - Michigan
6(26) Colts -  Khari Willis: S - Michigan St.
6(27) Chargers - Terry Beckner Jr.: DT - Missouri
6(28) Chiefs - Donald Parham: TE - Stetson
6(29) Falcons - Drue Tranquill: LB - Notre Dame
6(30) Rams  - Deshaun Davis: LB - Auburn
6(31) Lions - Justin Hollins: LB - Oregon
6(32) Patriots - Anthony Ratliff-Williams: WR - North Carolina
6(33) Packers - Demarcus Christmas: DL - Florida State
6(34) Cowboys - Sione Takitaki: LB - Brigham Young
6(35) Buccaneers - Olisaemeka Udoh: OL - Elon
6(36) Vikings - Javon Patterson: G - Mississippi
6(37) Dolphins (via CIN) - Jalen Hurd: WR - Baylor
6(38) Bengals - Karan Higdon: RB - Michigan
6(39) 49ers - Drew Sample: TE - Washington
6(40) Bengals - Tyre Brady: WR - Marshall
6(41) Cowboys - Jordan Ta'amu: QB - Mississippi
 
Round 7
7(1) Buccaneers - Trace McSorley: QB - Penn State
7(2) Chiefs - Tim Harris: LB - Virginia
7(3) Jets - Cole Tracy: K - LSU
7(4) Redskins - Chris Slayton: DL - Syracuse
7(5) Steelers - Tony Pollard Jr: RB - Memphis
7(6) Texans - Nick Fitzgerald: QB - Mississippi State
7(7) Bears - Martez Ivey: OT - Florida
7(8) Bears - Carl Granderson: OLB - Wyoming
7(9) Bengals - Xavier Crawford: CB - Central Michigan
7(10) Lions - Emeke Egbule: LB - Houston
7(11) Bills -  Reis Seggebruch: LB - Cornell
7(12) Packers - Ryan Bates: OL - Penn State
7(13) Raiders - Mike Bell: S - Fresno State
7(14) Bills - Henry Stillwell: OT - Cornell
7(15) Lions - Mathieu Betts: DE - Laval
7(16) Panthers (via ATL) - Easton Stick: QB - North Dakota State
7(17) Saints - Evan Worthington: S - Colorado
7(18) Giants - Malik Reed: LB - Nevada
7(19) Bills - Alex Bars: OL - Notre Dame
7(20) Dolphins - Dexter Williams: RB - Notre Dame
7(21) Raiders - Cameron Smith: LB - USC
7(22) Jaguars - Ricky Walker: DT - Virginia Tech
7(23) Broncos - Saquon Hampton: S - Rutgers
7(24) Browns - Joe Lowery: OT - Ohio
7(25) Patriots - Cody Barton: LB - Utah
7(26) Colts  - Sam Mustipher: C - Notre Dame
7(27) Chiefs - Shareef Miller: OLB - Penn State
7(28) Chargers - Youhanna Ghaifan: DL - Wyoming
7(29) Chiefs - Chris Johnson: S - North Alabama
7(30) Saints - Stephen Denmark: CB - Valdosta State
7(31) Giants - Trevon Wesco: FB/TE - West Virginia
7(32) Patriots - Matt Sokol: TE - Michigan St
7(33) Vikings - Calvin Anderson: OT - Texas
7(34) Cardinals - Alex Bookser: OL - Pittsburgh
7(35) Cardinals - Paul Adams: OL - Missouri
7(36) Vikings - Andrew Beck: TE/FB - Texas
7(37) Rams - Sutton Smith: Edge - Northern Illinois
7(38) Patriots - Jacob Dolegala: QB - Central Connecticut State
7(39) Raiders - Preston Williams: WR - Colorado State
7(40) Cardinals - Marquise Copeland: DL - Cincinnati

 

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1 hour ago, RTTRUTH said:

In case anyone is bored and just wants a comparison, here's how the GM mock draft I ran turned out. I'm kind of surprised myself how different they really are between say rounds 3-6

Thanks for sharing.  Always cool looking at different draft scenarios. 

Do you guys run free agency or focus on the draft only?

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14 minutes ago, ny92mike said:

Thanks for sharing.  Always cool looking at different draft scenarios. 

Do you guys run free agency or focus on the draft only?

Both actually. That particular draft we call our "official" one. It's the last one we do and does not include our own version of free agency. We just recognize what the real life teams have added through the first two or three waves of FA. We do have a pretty cool contest we do based on that "official" mock though. Called our draft value challenge. We each have our own "board" where we try to guess 2 guys from each round who will get drafted higher in real life than in our mock, and two from each round who will go lower in real life, plus 1 from each round we assume was "drafted correctly", meaning he'll land very close to that spot in the real life draft (just try guessing 6th/7th rounders, it's brutal). We're awarded points for being right, based on how big of a move there was, or how close someone was on their drafted correct guesses. It's very challenging, and adds another element of intrigue to the real draft as it takes place.

 

But before that official draft , we usually do another where we do mock through our own version of free agency before doing a draft. In reality our education on the prospects is much better by the time we get around to doing our official draft

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Haven't forgot about this.  Been working on this system I've been talking about to generate standings based on stats.

Using only passing, rushing, receiving and defensive stats, the results have been impressive.  I won't bore you guys with the details, but right now the data looks cool, be happy to share it if you care to see it.

Basically, it's taking the individual stats and totaling them up to create team stats with an accuracy rate currently at 78.3%.  However, this number is only that high because I've got the full season of stats.  The number wouldn't be even close to this if I was pulling weekly stats, but I still think it's a cool concept.  

We talked about just voting on rosters until we got to the playoffs, I'm thinking that we discuss using this system to generate the regular season standings and then maybe do game plans for the post season to determine the post season standings.

@EaglesPeteC don't have a stroke, but in this simulation Philly wouldn't make the playoffs.  Now this could change when I get additional stats uploaded.  Hell I don't even have any offensive line data included at this time.  So I'll need to figure out something there.  Nor are kick returns and field goals worked in.  But to give you guys an idea of the simulated standings.

Team Conf. Div. W irl Wins
LosAngelesRams NFC NFCW 14 13
KansasCityChiefs AFC AFCW 14 12
IndianapolisColts AFC AFCS 13 10
NewOrleansSaints NFC NFCS 13 13
PittsburghSteelers AFC AFCN 13 9
ChicagoBears NFC NFCN 12 12
BaltimoreRavens AFC AFCN 12 10
NewEnglandPatriots AFC AFCE 11 11
LosAngelesChargers AFC AFCW 11 12
HoustonTexans AFC AFCS 11 11
DallasCowboys NFC NFCE 10 10
MinnesotaVikings NFC NFCN 10 8
SeattleSeahawks NFC NFCW 9 10
TennesseeTitans AFC AFCS 9 9
CarolinaPanthers NFC NFCS 9 7
DetroitLions NFC NFCN 8 6
AtlantaFalcons NFC NFCS 8 7
CincinnatiBengals AFC AFCN 7 6
JacksonvilleJaguars AFC AFCS 6 5
PhiladelphiaEagles NFC NFCE 6 9
GreenBayPackers NFC NFCN 6 6
BuffaloBills AFC AFCE 5 6
NewYorkJets AFC AFCE 5 4
ClevelandBrowns AFC AFCN 5 7
WashingtonRedskins NFC NFCE 5 7
NewYorkGiants NFC NFCE 5 5
TampaBayBuccaneers NFC NFCS 5 5
SanFrancisco49ers NFC NFCW 4 4
MiamiDolphins AFC AFCE 3 7
DenverBroncos AFC AFCW 3 6
OaklandRaiders AFC AFCW 2 4
ArizonaCardinals NFC NFCW 2 3
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