PossibleCabbage Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 So three years ago, on the eve of the 2016 NFL draft things like "Michael Thomas will be a better WR than Doctson, Coleman, Treadwell, or Fuller"would have been a hot take. Likewise "Chris Jones and Kenny Clark are going to be better than Nkemdiche, A'Shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed, or Vernon Butler" or "Xavien Howard is the best CB in the draft not named Jalen Ramsey". All of these I think now, are more or less things that everybody paying attention believes, or are at least significantly less controversial than they would have been in Mid-April 2016. So, plant your flag or put on your prognostication hat. What players do you think will outperform players who the consensus has ranked higher than them, to the degree that the consensus is going to flip in three years. Since Quinnen vs. Oliver or Haskins vs. Murray is not really a "hot take" in any sense, try to pick guys who aren't really in the consensus top 3 who are going to outperform their current consensus ranking. Some of this is contingent on fit, scheme, injury luck, or just general weirdness, so there are no repercussions for being wrong. Also these are fundamentally hot takes so no need to take someone else being wrong very seriously. Some of mine: Jerry Tillery is a top 3 IDL in this class. Hakeem Butler is WR1 Darnell Savage is the best safety from this group in 3 years. Kahale Warring outperforms Noah Fant and Irv Smith in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: So three years ago, on the eve of the 2016 NFL draft things like "Michael Thomas will be a better WR than Doctson, Coleman, Treadwell, or Fuller"would have been a hot take. Likewise "Chris Jones and Kenny Clark are going to be better than Nkemdiche, A'Shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed, or Vernon Butler" or "Xavien Howard is the best CB in the draft not named Jalen Ramsey". All of these I think now, are more or less things that everybody paying attention believes, or are at least significantly less controversial than they would have been in Mid-April 2016. So, plant your flag or put on your prognostication hat. What players do you think will outperform players who the consensus has ranked higher than them, to the degree that the consensus is going to flip in three years. Since Quinnen vs. Oliver or Haskins vs. Murray is not really a "hot take" in any sense, try to pick guys who aren't really in the consensus top 3 who are going to outperform their current consensus ranking. Some of this is contingent on fit, scheme, injury luck, or just general weirdness, so there are no repercussions for being wrong. Also these are fundamentally hot takes so no need to take someone else being wrong very seriously. Some of mine: Jerry Tillery is a top 3 IDL in this class. Hakeem Butler is WR1 Darnell Savage is the best safety from this group in 3 years. Kahale Warring outperforms Noah Fant and Irv Smith in the NFL. I can get behind 3 and 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: So three years ago, on the eve of the 2016 NFL draft things like "Michael Thomas will be a better WR than Doctson, Coleman, Treadwell, or Fuller"would have been a hot take. Likewise "Chris Jones and Kenny Clark are going to be better than Nkemdiche, A'Shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed, or Vernon Butler" or "Xavien Howard is the best CB in the draft not named Jalen Ramsey". All of these I think now, are more or less things that everybody paying attention believes, or are at least significantly less controversial than they would have been in Mid-April 2016. So, plant your flag or put on your prognostication hat. What players do you think will outperform players who the consensus has ranked higher than them, to the degree that the consensus is going to flip in three years. Since Quinnen vs. Oliver or Haskins vs. Murray is not really a "hot take" in any sense, try to pick guys who aren't really in the consensus top 3 who are going to outperform their current consensus ranking. Some of this is contingent on fit, scheme, injury luck, or just general weirdness, so there are no repercussions for being wrong. Also these are fundamentally hot takes so no need to take someone else being wrong very seriously. Some of mine: Jerry Tillery is a top 3 IDL in this class. Hakeem Butler is WR1 Darnell Savage is the best safety from this group in 3 years. Kahale Warring outperforms Noah Fant and Irv Smith in the NFL. Like your takes. Least sure of Savage. Butler is the most interesting receiver in the class. So many other good WRs if they stay healthy. Renfrow is going to make some QB very happy. Surest thing in this class. Not ready to plant my flag yet except on the biggest and smallest hands in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1. Taylor Rapp will become an elite player and will be consistently put in the top 15 players in re-drafts 3 years from now. 2. Joe Jackson will outperform every other EDGE in the draft class. 3. George Aston and Qadree Ollison make several pro bowls. 4. Diontae Johnson and Greg Dortch make several pro bowls. 5. Rashan Gary never lives up to the hype. He remains an average player for the rest of time. 6. Dwayne Haskins outperforms Kyler Murray by a mile, but Murray isn't a BUST. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Rosen is better than Haskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucShot Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 That Josh Allen was apart of the 2nd tier not the first tier- and that Bosa and Quinnen were a cut above all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) Andy Isabella, will end up as the best WR from this class, and a pro bowler in over 50% of his NFL seasons, after his rookie year (which will still be solid, but nothing crazy via being held back as a rookie) Darrell Henderson ends up as the only RB from this class to make more than one pro bowl Those are the two main guys I'd bang the drum for, for their respective positions. Focusing on other RBs: Jacobs, Montgomery, and Sanders all heavily underperform their draft status via limited speed/acceleration relative to the NFL level, despite being 3 of the first 4 drafted. Mike Weber ends up being the 2nd best RB of this class via being solid and unspectacular, but spends his entire career being that guy where the team talks about replacing him constantly. Edited April 6, 2019 by Epyon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 -Jarret Stidham becomes the best QB from this class -Jachai Polite falls but becomes one of the best edge defenders in the league -David Long will he viewed as the best CB from this class -Nick Bosa busts -The most productive RB in this class will be drafted in the 6th round, Elijah Holyfield 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Dwayne Haskins will develop into a very good QB for the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Ed Oliver never records more than 5 sacks in a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Riley Ridley records 6 1k yard seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: 1. Taylor Rapp will become an elite player and will be consistently put in the top 15 players in re-drafts 3 years from now. 2. Joe Jackson will outperform every other EDGE in the draft class. 3. George Aston and Qadree Ollison make several pro bowls. 4. Diontae Johnson and Greg Dortch make several pro bowls. 5. Rashan Gary never lives up to the hype. He remains an average player for the rest of time. 6. Dwayne Haskins outperforms Kyler Murray by a mile, but Murray isn't a BUST. LOOOOVE Joe Jackson. I think Banogu might be better even, if he has the heart.....and I can't tell that. My favs go Bosa, Banogu, Jackson. Really love the last two though. Edited April 7, 2019 by JaireAlex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 22 hours ago, Epyon said: Andy Isabella, will end up as the best WR from this class, and a pro bowler in over 50% of his NFL seasons, after his rookie year (which will still be solid, but nothing crazy via being held back as a rookie) Darrell Henderson ends up as the only RB from this class to make more than one pro bowl Those are the two main guys I'd bang the drum for, for their respective positions. Focusing on other RBs: Jacobs, Montgomery, and Sanders all heavily underperform their draft status via limited speed/acceleration relative to the NFL level, despite being 3 of the first 4 drafted. Mike Weber ends up being the 2nd best RB of this class via being solid and unspectacular, but spends his entire career being that guy where the team talks about replacing him constantly. Like it, but Jacobs is special. And Sanders will be fine. This is quietly a nice RB class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: -Jarret Stidham becomes the best QB from this class -Jachai Polite falls but becomes one of the best edge defenders in the league -David Long will he viewed as the best CB from this class -Nick Bosa busts -The most productive RB in this class will be drafted in the 6th round, Elijah Holyfield Oh, man!!!!!! I am so on the opposite spectrum with every one of these except the QB whom I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 I do strongly suspect that Polite's actual NFL career will be a lot better than his pre-draft process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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