deathstar Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Valedictorian of Rodgers' school of passive-aggression right here lol I mean you know you're being controversial but really the draft never plays out like anyone expects so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_NFLs_GG Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I am rewatching Harry because I haven't watched him in awhile. Just remember being high on him and thinking he was worth a pick in the 20s. If we came away with Bush and Harry I would expect additional picks as well moving down from 12. Wouldn't be ideal. I'd rather have Butler and Simmons using our 3rd to trade up instead. Yeah I would be okay with Bush, a little disappointed at 12 though. But Fant or Hockenson at 30 would be great. I really don't see any difference between MVS and Moore compared to Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, deathstar said: I mean you know you're being controversial but really the draft never plays out like anyone expects so why not? If it's being controversial to say a top 5 guy looks more like a top 25 guy then so be it i guess. I don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Fox_NFLs_GG said: Yeah I would be okay with Bush, a little disappointed at 12 though. But Fant or Hockenson at 30 would be great. I really don't see any difference between MVS and Moore compared to Harry. 12 for Bush is bad value. 26 for Bush is better. Hock at 30 is good value. Fant at 30 is exceptional value. Harry is probably as strong as both MVS and Moore together and waayyy better RAC than either. Very different game. Moore is slippery with insane feet and COD. Harry is more Anquan Boldin, but a little faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, incognito_man said: Hock at 30 is good value. Fant at 30 is exceptional value. I'll be really surprised if either of these guys make it to 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Don't think you have to worry about Boss's testing numbers. You can trust bloodlines in scouting IMO. Joey didn't test out of this world either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, incognito_man said: 12 for Bush is bad value. 26 for Bush is better. Hock at 30 is good value. Fant at 30 is exceptional value. Harry is probably as strong as both MVS and Moore together and waayyy better RAC than either. Very different game. Moore is slippery with insane feet and COD. Harry is more Anquan Boldin, but a little faster. I know Harry is on a different level but Moore has been hitting the weights this off season. He’s reaching swole status for a young WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just watched a few more ILBs. I would have believed you if you told me Blake Cashman was the best LB in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, incognito_man said: If it's being controversial to say a top 5 guy looks more like a top 25 guy then so be it i guess. I don't really care. You make a post specifically about how you rank players, put a consensus top 2 player as almost a bust and don’t expect it to be controversial? Like I said - I appreciate putting out different ideas. Thanks for putting these thoughts out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Don't think you have to worry about Boss's testing numbers. You can trust bloodlines in scouting IMO. Joey didn't test out of this world either. the 3-cone delta is what stands out to me most between the two. Nick is just average there. I don't remember, but I'd guess Joey looked more fluid/bendy around the edge when he was at Ohio St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, deathstar said: You make a post specifically about how you rank players, put a consensus top 2 player as almost a bust and don’t expect it to be controversial? huh? no I didn't...lol just kidding. yes I did. Relative to his consensus slot anyway. Still would take him at end of round 1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Just watched a few more ILBs. I would have believed you if you told me Blake Cashman was the best LB in this class. NOt sure about best ILB, but best value for ILB might be a fair statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, squire12 said: NOt sure about best ILB, but best value for ILB might be a fair statement. sounds like he has medical (shoulder) issues though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Not smart enough with regard to Bosa, but you do have to take into account surrounding cast when judging talent. Having very talented teammates around you can cover up some of your warts. Scheme as well. Not saying that's the case here, but it has happened before .... cough cough .... not gonna open that can of worms .... cough cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Golfman said: Tier 1 - Trade up from 12 Quinnen Williams Josh Allen Joey Bosa Tier 2 - Take at 12 Ed Oliver Jawaan Taylor Rashan Gary (could pass on him too) Andre Dillard Tier 3 - Trade down from 12. I wouldn't trade up from 30 for anybody but the guys in first two tiers Brian Burns Montez Sweat TJ Hockenson Devin White Noah Fant Tier 4 - Take at 30 or trade down Jeffrey Simmons - only because he's going to miss at least half the season Greedy Williams Dalton Risner Devin Bush Clelin ferrell Busts - Guys I've watched I don't like at all Any WR in round 1 (not that they aren't worthy, I just don't want to go there in round 1.) Jonah Williams (going to be a guard) Pretty much how I see it as well. If all Tier 2 guys are gone but Fant, Hock, and Burns are all available at 12 perhaps Gutey trades back just a few spots. Say Washington for an additional 3rd. Use that 3rd to jump back up from 30. All Tier 1 guys will be long gone. Don't think we have any shot at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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