incognito_man Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, mikemike778 said: Yes it did fact. Then find even a single example. If you're able to do that, then we will ask you to prove your actual claim by providing us with many, many examples from multiple posters including AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 52 minutes ago, mikemike778 said: Last summer, yourself and others spent an inordinate amount of time picking Rodgers apart and accusing anyone claiming Rodgers wasn't finished as naive or delusional. This never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, mikemike778 said: The reality is that Rodgers knows you can fudge the cap with void years, backload contracts and kick cap down the road. He wants to win now. He's also fiercely loyal to players he has played with and trusts - clearly values locker room spirit. All of this is good. Its up to the GM to have balance. Clearly Rodgers should have been listened to more and part of the process but he isn't GM and will have different priorities to the GM and the reality is the kind of deals he wanted (like Cobb) weren't good for the Packers so that deal shouldn't have been signed. Rodgers wants the team to sacrifice wins in future years when he's retired so that they can win now while he's here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: This never happened No- It was 2 summers ago, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, incognito_man said: This never happened 16 hours ago, R T said: It's called building a (false) narrative. Never? Were we on different forums before MLF came around? There was a pretty common belief around here that 12 was close to done. Obviously that turned out to be very wrong. Edited September 30, 2021 by Arthur Penske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Rodgers wants the team to sacrifice wins in future years when he's retired so that they can win now while he's here. So what? What player really gives a **** about how the team performs after they leave? That's the GM's job. The way Rodgers has done things this summer rubbed me the wrong way for sure, and I think his idea of getting more vets when he makes so much $ is unrealistic. But I can't blame a soon to be 38 year old HOFer for wanting to win now instead of caring about the 2027 Green Bay Packers Roster. Edited September 30, 2021 by Arthur Penske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: Never? Were we on different forums before MLF came around? There was a pretty common belief around here that 12 was close to done. Obviously that turned out to be very wrong. What he said: "AG (and others) accused anyone claiming Rodgers wasn't finished of being naive or delusional" What actually happened: some posters posited that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be as good as he previously was based on recent results. Those are very, very different things. Still waiting for a single example of AG (or anyone) calling someone "naive" or "delusional" for thinking Rodgers might not be finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, incognito_man said: What he said: "AG (and others) accused anyone claiming Rodgers wasn't finished of being naive or delusional" What actually happened: some posters posited that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be as good as he previously was based on recent results. Those are very, very different things. Still waiting for a single example of AG (or anyone) calling someone "naive" or "delusional" for thinking Rodgers might not be finished. I think this is down playing it quite significantly. Many thought 12 was toast from what I recall. I don't have any memory of what was said about others or really care, but things were far from all rosie towards 12 around here in 2018 is the point. Edited October 1, 2021 by Arthur Penske 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Did anyone think he was done though? I recall thinking that he was dogging it, not that he was incapable. Like last season, Brees was done. I think Big Ben is done. Rodgers could still do it, he just wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 23 hours ago, incognito_man said: What he said: "AG (and others) accused anyone claiming Rodgers wasn't finished of being naive or delusional" What actually happened: some posters posited that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be as good as he previously was based on recent results. Those are very, very different things. Still waiting for a single example of AG (or anyone) calling someone "naive" or "delusional" for thinking Rodgers might not be finished. This kind of thing we see all the time. Take an opposing argument and twist it to be just a bit more extreme so that your own argument seems more compelling than it actually is. This is tactics 101 on these kind of forums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: This kind of thing we see all the time. Take an opposing argument and twist it to be just a bit more extreme so that your own argument seems more compelling than it actually is. This is tactics 101 on these kind of forums. and in life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: think this is down playing it quite significantly. then it should be very straightforward to provide examples of his claim like I asked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: then it should be very straightforward to provide examples of his claim like I asked! Sorry man, I have better things to do with my time than look for 3 year old FF posts. I waste enough on here the way it is. Edited October 1, 2021 by Arthur Penske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 54 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Sorry man, I have better things to do with my time than look for 3 year old FF posts. I waste enough on here the way it is. Then I always default to "A claim without evidence can be dismissed without reason" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: Then I always default to "A claim without evidence can be dismissed without reason" There is no evidence of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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