MacReady Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, Golfman said: I've read a lot of nonsense on message boards before but this one.................................... When you say 'top QB'. Are you saying top 5, 10, 15? Curious minds! Tell me 10 quarterbacks Rodgers is playing better than right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieker Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Tell me 10 quarterbacks Rodgers is playing better than right now. Are there 10 QB’s who have played 3 defenses as tough as CHI, MN, and DEN? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Tell me 10 quarterbacks Rodgers is playing better than right now. Kurt Cussans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kepler said: Kurt Cussans. Mitch Trubisky. Matt Ryan. Mariotta. Dalton. Fitzpatrick. Winston. Flacco. Newton. Top of my head. I looked it up. Rodgers is #11 in PFF. All the others listed are below him. So is Big Ben. His replacement. Josh Allen. Garapallo. Point taken, though, that Rodgers is not elite in this NFL right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemike778 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Fl0nkerton said: Points are still more important than time of possession, right? Why do people use time of possession instead of offensive snaps ? They both measure the thing that you are trying to measure - whether you can sustain drives and keep your defence off the field. Suppose time of possession could be more important if you are the weaker side and trying to shorten the game to keep it close then nick it at the end but generally offensive snaps is a far more relevant stat. Of course Denver won on that metric as well ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Tell me 10 quarterbacks Rodgers is playing better than right now. 26th ranked offense. 27th in passing yards. Can't really say he is lighting it on fire right now. Think the "one of the top QB's in the league " ship has sailed. Maybe he'll prove me wrong but it's been a few years now since he has played like a "Top" QB. He needs to play better much better. He's #22 in passing yards. #19 in QBR. Through week 3. One thing I'll give him credit for is protecting the ball. Get's an A for that. New offense and going against some tough D's to start the season granted. Still not good enough. We'll see how he does as the season progresses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, mikemike778 said: Why do people use time of possession instead of offensive snaps ? They both measure the thing that you are trying to measure - whether you can sustain drives and keep your defence off the field. Suppose time of possession could be more important if you are the weaker side and trying to shorten the game to keep it close then nick it at the end but generally offensive snaps is a far more relevant stat. Of course Denver won on that metric as well ... I've been thinking about that, too. Snaps is by far the better measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, mikebpackfan said: 37 minutes ago, mikemike778 said: Why do people use time of possession instead of offensive snaps ? They both measure the thing that you are trying to measure - whether you can sustain drives and keep your defence off the field. Suppose time of possession could be more important if you are the weaker side and trying to shorten the game to keep it close then nick it at the end but generally offensive snaps is a far more relevant stat. Of course Denver won on that metric as well ... I've been thinking about that, too. Snaps is by far the better measure. for a hot second i thought you quoted, and agreed with, yourself lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, Kepler said: Kurt Cussans. This has to be the real name of a guy who was a support actor in old western movies. Has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, mikebpackfan said: I've been thinking about that, too. Snaps is by far the better measure. ^^^ This guy knows what he's talking about. @incognito_man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Outpost31 said: Tell me 10 quarterbacks Rodgers is playing better than right now. All of them with less than three wins! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, mikemike778 said: Why do people use time of possession instead of offensive snaps ? They both measure the thing that you are trying to measure - whether you can sustain drives and keep your defence off the field. Suppose time of possession could be more important if you are the weaker side and trying to shorten the game to keep it close then nick it at the end but generally offensive snaps is a far more relevant stat. Of course Denver won on that metric as well ... That's always bugged me too. Running teams get an inflated time of possession because the clock keeps running even after failed plays, but it doesn't mean anything unless they have a late lead and are trying to run out the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo972 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, vegas492 said: Mitch Trubisky. Matt Ryan. Mariotta. Dalton. Fitzpatrick. Winston. Flacco. Newton. Top of my head. I looked it up. Rodgers is #11 in PFF. All the others listed are below him. So is Big Ben. His replacement. Josh Allen. Garapallo. Point taken, though, that Rodgers is not elite in this NFL right now. He hasn’t been elite for years. His down fall has already started and it’s going to be quick. They just need to surround him with weapons and a good defense and he can still be successful on the back end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, YaddaHolla said: He hasn’t been elite for years. His down fall has already started and it’s going to be quick. They just need to surround him with weapons and a good defense and he can still be successful on the back end of his career. how can it have been happening for years but also be quick? ruh roh, agenda exposed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 From Eye in the Sky twitter Aaron Rodgers has defeated 2 of his biggest arch enemies this season, Mike Zimmer & Vic Fangio. All while not having to throw the ball 45 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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