KC_Guy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Quote No. 65 CLEVELAND TRADES: Erving, Cameron C Florida State KANSAS CITY TRADES: Selection Choice--Round 5, 2018 (Conditional) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC_Guy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 For what it's worth: Chiefs waived injured DB J.R. Nelson to clear a spot. Still no move on Ware, however, with ruptured PCL and LCL his season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, mayanfootball said: Especially if it's so deep you can't see it anymore No such thing. While a 5th may seem like a lot to some, I like this trade. We needed a swing OT and he fits the bill. Give him two positions to back up and leave him alone for a while. Hopefully, he won't play much, but that's a long way from invisible. There is also no such thing as too much depth. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Ervings got no balance, strength or awareness. Is that even coachable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Quote There is also no such thing as too much depth. I simply gave a perspective on "DEPTH". Is the word overused? Possibly. It has no meaning for inferior players who have no place on an NFL field, IMO. Some of our Olinemen fit this description. I'm hopeful Erving becomes a useful backup on our Oline. We'll see if our Oline coaches can coax some quality play out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I'll also ask why we did this BEFORE cut-down day? Teams will be greatly trimming rosters and i'll suspect there's a gem or two that will hit the waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, mayanfootball said: I'll also ask why we did this BEFORE cut-down day? Teams will be greatly trimming rosters and i'll suspect there's a gem or two that will hit the waiver wire. Probably because we have such a low priority on the waiver-wire, like 27th IIRC which is kinda smart, we bypassed that whole hope and a prayer and just traded for Ragland & Erving instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Chiefer said: Ervings got no balance, strength or awareness. Is that even coachable? This is what I'm afraid of @Chiefer. We can say it was "Cleveland" or "coaching" etc but some of those "Highlights" I've seen are pretty hard to watch. He looks like a TE going against the dline. I just don't see where he fits on this roster. If we cut him at the deadline, and the fact it's a conditional pick, do we keep our pick? Like, basically, a glorified preview of the guy. I wonder about salary cap ramifications. @KC_Guy ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Chiefs_5627 said: This is what I'm afraid of @Chiefer. We can say it was "Cleveland" or "coaching" etc but some of those "Highlights" I've seen are pretty hard to watch. He looks like a TE going against the dline. I just don't see where he fits on this roster. If we cut him at the deadline, and the fact it's a conditional pick, do we keep our pick? Like, basically, a glorified preview of the guy. I wonder about salary cap ramifications. @KC_Guy ?? Well he's only ever been decent at RT. Im thinking we keep him there. His footwork is just so awful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Chiefer said: Ervings got no balance, strength or awareness. Is that even coachable? Balance to me is debatable. Although if he gets stronger with our program, then balance may be helped. Awareness will come with experience. I just hope it's all on the practice field this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Balance to me is debatable. Although if he gets stronger with our program, then balance may be helped. Awareness will come with experience. I just hope it's all on the practice field this year. I'll second this. A lot of the things said of him were also said of LDT in his early days. Interestingly, to us they are both 5th round picks. There is no denying his footwork is awful, but technique is coachable. It's obvious the toolbox is loaded, so give him a position and let him learn it. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkrei Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 This is a pickup for next season, depth this year. And yes kc has better coaches than Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 http://m.chiefs.com/news/article-2/What-We-Learned-From-Chiefs-GM-Brett-Veach-on-Saturday/9d81442f-0147-4cc0-985a-3576fb204e06 1) Veach liked him in college, NFL as a Tackle. 2) Likes his tools, 6'5 long arms, good athlete. 3) liked the contract, several years left on contract. 4) pulled trigger because of game tape at RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 I wouldn't feel comfortable with him out there. But if he were to play, RT would be the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: I wouldn't feel comfortable with him out there. But if he were to play, RT would be the spot. Agreed. It's not like we went backward at back-up RT. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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