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AG20 Tiered Big Board and Draft Question Thread


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I got asked to post my big board. The time i've spent on this is nowhere near as encompassing as it has been in the past. About half of the guys in the bottom half of this thing are just based off reading scouting reports. Players are not ranked in their tier.

If anybody has a question, post it and I'll answer it.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 7+++

Nick Bosa 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 8+++

Quinnen Williams

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 12+++

Josh Allen

Ed Oliver

Montez Sweat

Brian Burns

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 20+++

Rashan Gary

Jawaan Taylor

Jonah Williams

Andre Dillard

Noah Fant

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 30+++

Wilkins

DeAndre Baker

TJ Hockenson

Byron Murphy

Greedy Williams

Dre'Mont Jones

Jeffrey Simmons

Chauncey Gardner Johnson

Jerry Tillery

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 44+++

White

Murray

Ferrell

Greg Little

Devin Bush

Parris Campbell

Johnathan Abram

Rock Ya-Sin

Irv Smith Jr

Justin Layne

Nasir Adderley

Kyler Murray

Darnell Savage

Dalton Risner

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 60+++

Haskins

Taylor Rapp

Deebo Samuel

Hakeem Butler

Max Scharping

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 75+++

Lock

Ford

Daniel Jones

Lindstrom

Dexter Lawrence

Gerald Willis

Julian Love

Nkeal Harris

David Edwards

Juan Thornhill

Amani Oruwariye

Mike Bell

Tytus Howard

Deionte Thompson

Oshane Ximines

Christian Miller

Joejuan Williams

JJ Arcega-Whiteside

Jachai Polite

Khalen Saunders

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 90+++

Marquise Brown

Chris Slayton

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 100+++

Erik McCoy

Josh Jacobs

Jaylon Ferguson

AJ Brown

Riley ridley

Trayvon Mullen

Mack Wilson

Miles Sanders

Tre Lamar

Jace Sternberger

Yodny Cajuste

D'Andre Walker

Ben Banogu

Porter Gustin

Caleb Wilson

Trey Pipkins

Jalen Jelks

Charles Omenihu

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 125+++

Kaleb McGary

Vosean Joseph

Terril Hanks

Dennis Daley

Michael Jordan

Germaine Pratt

Emanuel Hall

Kelvin Harmon

Michael Dieter

Isaiah Buggs

Shareef Miller

Lonnie Johnson

Terry McLaurin

DaMarkus Lodge

Nate Davis

Trysten Hill

Jamel Dean

Miles Boykin

Andy isabella

Josh Oliver

Bryce Love

Will Grier

Hunter Renfrow

Micah Hyatt

Kris Boyd

Maxx Crosby

Foster Moreau

Renell Wren

Michael Dogbe

Terry Goodwin

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 150+++

Zach Allen

Elgton Jenkins

Mike Webber

Damien Harris

Wes Hills

Austin Bryant

Devin Singletary

Elijah Holyfield

David Montgomery

Clayton Thorson

David Sills

Kahale Warring

Te'Von Coney

LJ Scott

Kendall sheffield

LJ Collier

Iman Marshall

Anthony Nelson

Sheldrick Redwine

Gary Jennings

Jaquan Jonson

Isaiah Johnson

Ryan Bates

Dax Raymond

Olisaemeka Udoh

TJ Edwards

Dawson Knox

Mark Fields

Blace Brown

Marvel Tell III

Sione Takitaki

Darrell Henderson

Joe Jackson

Myles Gaskin

Cody Ballentine

Montre Hartage

Dillon Mitchell

Alize Mack

Joshua Miles

Daniel Wise

Bryon Cowart

Blake Cashman

Mecole Hardman

Kaden Smith

Jonathan Ledbetter

Ryan Finley

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 175+++

Terry Beckner Jr

Garrett Bradbury

Benny Snell

Chase Winovich

Alex Wesley

Greg Gaines

Daylon Mack

David Long

Tre Watson

Will Harris

Lukas Denis

Alex Barnes

Jaylen Smith

Jarret Stidham

Jimmy Moreland

Demarcus Christmas

Kennen Brown

Ed Alexander

Saquon Hampton

Jon'Vea Johnson

Amani Bledsoe

Juwon Young

Anree Saint-Amour

Penny Hart

Derrick Puni

Calvin Anderson

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 200+++

Derrick Baity

Bryon Cowart

Tommy Sweeney

Justice Hill

Drew Sample

Kendall Joseph

Lexington Thomas

Olive Sagapolu

Hamp Cheevers

Kingsley Keke

Jeff Smith

Marcus Green

Ugo Amadi

Sean Bunting

Brandon Hitner

Karan Higdon

Ethan Greenridge

Malik Reed

Jamal Davis

Drue Tranquill

Trenton Irwin

+++++++++++++++++++++++++Top 225+++

Tim Ward

Jalen Hurd

Kaden Ellisss

Jordan Brailford

Emeke Egbule

+++++++++++++++++++++++++UDFA+++

Isaiah Prince

Kyle Shurmur

Dontavius Russel

Alec Ingold

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2 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said:
3 hours ago, PossibleCabbage said:

Is your Simmons grade based just on the play, or are you discounting for the medical?  If you are discounting for the medical, where would you put him if he were healthy? 

Top 12 if healthy even with the incident.

some scout has him as the #1 player

https://twitter.com/BobMcGinn/status/1119642748888453121

 

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A few questions:

Dremont Jones seems to have some pretty big holes in his run defense.  I could see top 44, but top 30?  

Oshane Ximines - I watched 4 or 5 of his games and I don't see anything special at all.  Nice size, but he seems to be a slow burner without much of a plan. 

Kind of the same with Irv Smith.  His athleticism is a big question mark for me, and I just don't see a top 75 player there.

The other is Amani Hooker.  I didn't see him at all.  Pettine seems to love safeties that can play multiple positions well.  Hooker isn't going to wow anyone with his athleticism or size, but I think he'll be just as good as Hyde.

 

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I agree with your players clustered around 12. I could see GB taking any one of them at that spot, and if none are there, trying like hell to trade down. I just keep thinking about how this front office does not reach or go outside of their board, no matter what. I really believe Gute is as confident in his ability to move as anyone. For his few faulty steps in building the 2018 roster, his movement in the first round of last year's draft was masterful.  

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Savage or Adderly if you're sitting at 44 and both are available?

Think I'd swing Adderly personally.

 

Conversely, say we address S (say CGJ) at w/ a trade down or @ 30 and Savage proves himself available at 44 or 75. 

You feel comfortable with a room full of Amos/Williams/Greene/Draft Pick  ft. Jones?
Do you feel comfortable with a Savage selection? Shades of '15? Do we need 2 safeties?

 

Not gonna pretend I know how Pettine likes to run his defense.
Personally I think they prefer Jones be featured less as a Safety, opening up a hole for another draft pick but I suppose this offseason was about leaving options everywhere. 

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18 hours ago, Cheech said:

Oshane Ximines - I watched 4 or 5 of his games and I don't see anything special at all.  Nice size, but he seems to be a slow burner without much of a plan. 

Okay, Ximines isn't a perfect prospect, but I don't know where you got the idea he plays without a plan. 

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4 hours ago, Cadmus said:

Okay, Ximines isn't a perfect prospect, but I don't know where you got the idea he plays without a plan. 

By watching 4 or 5 of his games?

He got by with a hand swipe and speed rush vs. tackles from FIU and VMI, but that isnt going to translate to the NFL.  He got stoned in the Marshall game until the 2nd or 3rd string right tackle came out in the 4th quarter.  

I see him stand up at the snap - Maybe a product of spread offense, but it really limits his first step.  He doesn't offer a counter or a bull rush, so I see a 2 to 3 year project before he's even a rotational player.

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